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From: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Vince Weaver <vincent.weaver@maine.edu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: perf: PERF_FLAG_FD_OUTPUT has been broken since 2.6.35
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 08:56:39 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150113115639.GH29743@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150113093603.GK23965@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net>

Em Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 10:36:03AM +0100, Peter Zijlstra escreveu:
> On Fri, Jan 09, 2015 at 11:26:54AM -0500, Vince Weaver wrote:
> > On Fri, 9 Jan 2015, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > > So is this worth fixing seeing as apparently no one uses this feature?

> > > I think there's a fair argument for removing it, Ingo, Acme?

> > could the functionality be replaced with a subsequent call to
> > 	ioctl(PERF_EVENT_IOC_SET_OUTPUT)
 
> Yes.
 
> > Although I suppose there's a possibility for losing a small amount of data 
> > or some other reason that PERF_FLAG_FD_OUTPUT was introduced in the first 
> > place.
 
> That's a natural race without solution. That is, because there is no
> serialization between the sys_perf_event_open() and any possible acts of
> data generation, we can't even talk about loosing data.

> Even if it were all in a single syscall, there is no saying how long
> that syscall would take to complete -- imagine its stuck on memory
> allocation or whatnot. Similarly you could have issued the syscall a wee
> bit later or whatnot.

That is exactly my thinking, the world goes on while we set up perf to
observe it :-)

- Arnaldo

      reply	other threads:[~2015-01-13 11:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-08 15:22 perf: PERF_FLAG_FD_OUTPUT has been broken since 2.6.35 Vince Weaver
2015-01-09 16:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-01-09 16:26   ` Vince Weaver
2015-01-09 23:17     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-01-13  9:36     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-01-13 11:56       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo [this message]

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