From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Nicolas Pitre <nicolas.pitre@linaro.org>
Cc: "Russell King - ARM Linux" <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
"Tony Lindgren" <tony@atomide.com>,
"Pali Rohár" <pali.rohar@gmail.com>,
linux-omap <linux-omap@vger.kernel.org>,
"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Aaro Koskinen" <aaro.koskinen@iki.fi>,
"Sebastian Reichel" <sre@kernel.org>,
"Ivaylo Dimitrov" <ivo.g.dimitrov.75@gmail.com>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
"Laura Abbott" <lauraa@codeaurora.org>
Subject: Re: N900 v3.19-rc5 arm atags_to_fdt.c is broken
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 00:17:11 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150127231711.GB27641@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.11.1501271309450.1322@knanqh.ubzr>
On Tue 2015-01-27 13:50:22, Nicolas Pitre wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Jan 2015, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 10:16:24AM -0500, Nicolas Pitre wrote:
> > > On Tue, 27 Jan 2015, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > > > (Note, that in 3.19 dts for n900 got too big, so we are actually
> > > > triggering old bugs. That means that this is a regression fix, and
> > > > should go in ASAP).
> > >
> > > It is queued here:
> > > http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/developer/patches/viewpatch.php?id=8294/1
> >
> > Irrespective of that patch, I commented on another thread (about adding
> > the serial number to DT):
> >
> > | How about something a little more radical.
> > |
> > | Rather than trying to squeeze various ATAGs into DT, why don't we add a
> > | standard ATAG to contain the DT and pass that through into the kernel.
> > | This is IMHO how we _should_ have done the ATAG compatibility from the
> > | start.
> > |
> > | That means we could get rid of most of the libfdt in the decompressor,
> > | and instead resolve the differences in the kernel.
> >
> > That would allow us to get rid of all the FDT compatibility code in the
> > decompressor, and when we encounter these special ATAGs, we can deal with
> > them in the kernel instead of having to mess around with the DT. I'd
> > also assume (although I haven't checked) that it would be much easier to
> > add additional DT properties in the kernel environment, rather than in
> > the rather restrictive decompressor environment.
>
> Well...
>
> I was initially against any ATAG-to-DT compatibility at all. IMHO the
> "right" solution is to update the bootloader.
>
> However people complained that updating the bootloader wasn't possible.
> I therefore suggested they go with a shim layer I termed the "impedance
> matcher" acting like an intermediate boot stage converting their (often
> unofficial and out-of-tree) ATAGs into proper DT nodes. Some people did
> exactly that and it works wonderfully for them. It also works
> wonderfully for kernel maintenance as the platform specific tweaks are
> kept out of the kernel tree.
>
> Still, that wasn't good enough for some cases as the move to DT
> regressed some platforms that just used to work before. Concatenating a
> DTB to zImage was tolerable but installing an additional shim layer was
> too much. Hence the ATAG-to-DT compat code in the decompressor. This
> was meant to smooth things around the transition to DT, etc. After all,
> those devices with non-replaceable bootloaders where shim layers are not
> possible should get out of commission eventually?
N900 is still phone that is best-supported by the mainline,
AFAICT. Yes, it is rather sad, but it means that no, it is probably
not going out of commission anytime soon.
Pavel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-01-27 23:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-01-23 21:39 N900 v3.19-rc5 arm atags_to_fdt.c is broken Pali Rohár
2015-01-23 22:36 ` Pali Rohár
2015-01-23 23:48 ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-24 9:04 ` Pali Rohár
2015-01-26 16:14 ` Tony Lindgren
2015-01-26 16:23 ` Pali Rohár
2015-01-26 17:03 ` Tony Lindgren
2015-01-26 18:57 ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-01-26 21:48 ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-27 0:06 ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-01-27 13:37 ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-27 15:16 ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-01-27 15:26 ` Pali Rohár
2015-01-27 15:26 ` Tony Lindgren
2015-01-27 17:53 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-01-27 18:50 ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-01-27 23:09 ` Aaro Koskinen
2015-01-27 23:17 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2015-02-02 13:39 ` Pavel Machek
2015-02-02 13:56 ` Nicolas Pitre
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