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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Richard Weinberger <richard.weinberger@gmail.com>
Cc: Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>,
	Iulia Manda <iulia.manda21@gmail.com>,
	One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@canonical.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	LSM <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] kernel: Conditionally support non-root users, groups and capabilities
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2015 15:30:21 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150131233021.GZ19109@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFLxGvzwwPvhLtMN1jL0Rq+KLR0u2+ABaS07K0X5fGSm+jORMw@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 10:56:14PM +0100, Richard Weinberger wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 10:40 PM, Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org> wrote:
> > *Today*, Linux is a challenging choice for a tiny embedded system.
> > We're trying to fix that.
> 
> Can you please more specific about the embedded systems exactly you're
> talking about?
> 
> I find this patch rather controversial as it removes a lot of security.
> Embedded systems *are* a target for all kind of attacks.
> Misguided embedded engineers will abuse this feature and produce even more
> weak targets.

Without this patch, those same engineers would simply run everything as
root.  "Make a foolproof system, and they will invent a better fool".  ;-)

							Thanx, Paul


  reply	other threads:[~2015-01-31 23:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-29 18:43 [PATCH v2] kernel: Conditionally support non-root users, groups and capabilities Iulia Manda
2015-01-29 18:59 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-01-29 20:01   ` josh
2015-01-29 20:16     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-01-29 23:44 ` Casey Schaufler
2015-01-30  0:32   ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-01-30  1:25     ` Casey Schaufler
2015-01-30  1:36       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-01-30  2:25         ` Casey Schaufler
2015-01-30  7:07           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-01-30 19:13           ` josh
2015-01-30 19:48             ` Casey Schaufler
2015-01-30 20:20               ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-01-30 21:40               ` Josh Triplett
2015-01-30 21:56                 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-01-31 23:30                   ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2015-01-31 23:33                     ` Richard Weinberger
2015-02-01 19:45                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-01-31 17:00               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2015-01-30  0:43   ` josh
2015-01-30  2:05     ` Casey Schaufler
2015-01-30 21:04       ` Josh Triplett

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