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From: Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@kvack.org>,
	linux-aio@kvack.org, Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] iommu/amd: Fix amd_iommu_free_device()
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 23:56:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150203225642.GK3702@8bytes.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFwHkOo+YGWKYROmce1-H_uG3KfEUmCkJUerTj=ojY2H6Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Linus,

On Tue, Feb 03, 2015 at 11:23:44AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> The linux wakeup model has always been that there can be multiple
> sources of wakeup events, and the proper way to wait for something is
> generally a variation of
> 
>    prepare_to_wait(..);
>    for (;;) {
>        set_task_state(..);
>        .. test for condition and break out ..
>        schedule()
>    }
>    finish_wait()
> 
> although obviously these days we *heavily* favor the "wait_event()"
> interfaces that encapsulate something that looks like that loop and
> makes for a much simpler programming model. We should basically never
> favor the open-coded version, because it's so easy to get it wrong.

Thanks for your explanations. I was aware that there could be spurious
wakeups for TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE sleeps, but thought that this couldn't
happen for TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE. I didn't know about the lockless
wakeups and their implications, but now the Peters patch makes total
sense.

That these spurious wakeup situations are so unlikely also explains why
they were not yet reported to me :)


	Joerg


  reply	other threads:[~2015-02-03 22:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-01 14:40 [GIT PULL] aio: fix sleeping while TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE Benjamin LaHaise
2015-02-01 21:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-02-01 22:14   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2015-02-01 23:09     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-02-01 23:33     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-02-02  0:16       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2015-02-02  1:18         ` Linus Torvalds
2015-02-02  5:29           ` Dave Chinner
     [not found]             ` <CA+55aFwvEcq-rAbqF2qTut=kJgFZZnhHptoPi6FSVrF4+1tBNA@mail.gmail.com>
2015-02-02  5:54               ` Dave Chinner
2015-02-02 18:45                 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-02-03 22:23                   ` Dave Chinner
2015-02-03 23:34                     ` Benjamin LaHaise
2015-02-03 11:27           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-03 11:33             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-03 11:55               ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-03 23:24                 ` Jens Axboe
2015-02-04 10:18                   ` [PATCH] block: Simplify bsg complete all Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-04 17:06                     ` Jens Axboe
2015-02-03 12:25             ` [PATCH] iommu/amd: Fix amd_iommu_free_device() Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-03 17:04               ` Jesse Barnes
2015-02-03 17:34               ` Joerg Roedel
2015-02-03 19:23                 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-02-03 22:56                   ` Joerg Roedel [this message]
2015-02-04 14:35               ` Joerg Roedel

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