From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: Darren Hart <darren@dvhart.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Jerome Marchand <jmarchan@redhat.com>,
Larry Woodman <lwoodman@redhat.com>,
Mateusz Guzik <mguzik@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/1] futex: check PF_KTHREAD rather than !p->mm to filter out kthreads
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 12:12:12 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150204111212.GF2896@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150203200916.GA10545@redhat.com>
On Tue, Feb 03, 2015 at 09:09:16PM +0100, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> Btw, do you agree with 1/1? Can you ack/nack it?
Done!
> On 02/02, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 02, 2015 at 03:05:15PM +0100, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> >
> > > And another question. Lets forget about this ->mm check. I simply can not
> > > understand this
> > >
> > > ret = (p->flags & PF_EXITPIDONE) ? -ESRCH : -EAGAIN
> > >
> > > I must have missed something but this looks buggy, I do not see any
> > > preemption point in this "retry" loop. Suppose that max_cpus=1 and rt_task()
> > > preempts the non-rt PF_EXITING owner. Looks like futex_lock_pi() can spin
> > > forever in this case? (OK, ignoring RT throttling).
> >
> > So yes, I do like your proposal of putting PF_EXITPIDONE under the
> > ->pi_lock section that handles exit_pi_state_list().
>
> Probably I was not clear... Let try again just in case.
>
> I believe that the whole "spin waiting for PF_EXITING -> PF_EXITPIDONE
> transition" idea is simply wrong. See the test-case I sent.
>
> I think that attach_to_pi_owner() should never check PF_EXITING and never
> return -EAGAIN. It should either proceed and add pi_state to the list or
> return -ESRCH if exit_pi_state_list() was called.
>
> Do you agree?
Yes.
> Perhaps we can set PF_EXITPIDONE lockless and avoid the unconditional
> lock(pi_lock) but this is minor.
Agreed, lets first fix things. We can optimize later.
> The main problem is that I fail to understand why this logic was added
> in the first place... To avoid the race with exit_robust_list() ? I do
> not see why this is needed...
exit_pi_state_list() I think, but 778e9a9c3e71 ("pi-futex: fix exit
races and locking problems") is a big and somewhat confusing patch.
I'm not quite sure why/how all that happened either, it was before I got
sucked into all this.
I'm not entire sure why we need two PF flags for this; once PF_EXITING
is set userspace is _dead_ and it doesn't make sense to keep adding
(futex) PI-state to the task.
> > As for the recursive fault; I think the safer option is to set
> > EXITPIDONE and not register more PI states, as opposed to allowing more
> > and more states to be added. Yes we'll leak whatever currently is there,
> > but no point in allowing it to get worse.
>
> Not sure I understand... If you mean recursive do_exit() then yes, I think
> that we should simply set EXITPIDONE lockless in a best-effort manner, this
> is what the current code does. Just the comment should be updated in any
> case imo.
Yes, the "Fixing recursive fault..." branch, you had an XXX explain
comment there. I think we agree there.
> But mostly I was confused by the pseudo-code below. Heh, because I thought
> that it describes the changes in kernel/futex.c you think we should do. Now
> that I finally realized that it outlines the current code I am unconfused a
> bit ;)
Yes, it was an attempt to show what the current code does -- which is;
of itself; confusing enough.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-02-04 11:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-02-02 14:05 [PATCH 0/1] futex: check PF_KTHREAD rather than !p->mm to filter out kthreads Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-02 14:05 ` [PATCH 1/1] " Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-04 10:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-14 18:01 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-02-14 20:57 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-14 21:15 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-02-14 21:54 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-18 17:11 ` [tip:locking/core] locking/futex: Check " tip-bot for Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-02 15:11 ` [PATCH 0/1] futex: check " Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-02 15:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-02 15:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-02 16:20 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-03 20:09 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-04 11:12 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2015-02-04 20:25 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-05 16:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-05 18:10 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-06 10:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-06 17:04 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-09 20:38 ` Darren Hart
2015-02-10 11:14 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-16 20:13 ` [PATCH 0/1] futex: don't spin waiting for PF_EXITING -> PF_EXITPIDONE transition Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-16 20:13 ` [PATCH 1/1] " Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-27 9:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-27 11:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
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