From: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
To: Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>,
Seth Jennings <sjenning@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] sched: add sched_task_call()
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 11:32:55 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150219173255.GC15980@treble.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150219171929.GA13178@suse.cz>
On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 06:19:29PM +0100, Vojtech Pavlik wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 11:03:53AM -0600, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 05:33:59PM +0100, Vojtech Pavlik wrote:
> > > On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:24:29AM -0600, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> > >
> > > > > No, these tasks will _never_ make syscalls. So you need to guarantee
> > > > > they don't accidentally enter the kernel while you flip them. Something
> > > > > like so should do.
> > > > >
> > > > > You set TIF_ENTER_WAIT on them, check they're still in userspace, flip
> > > > > them then clear TIF_ENTER_WAIT.
> > > >
> > > > Ah, that's a good idea. But how do we check if they're in user space?
> > >
> > > I don't see the benefit in holding them in a loop - you can just as well
> > > flip them from the syscall code as kGraft does.
> >
> > But we were talking specifically about HPC tasks which never make
> > syscalls.
>
> Yes. I'm saying that rather than guaranteeing they don't enter the
> kernel (by having them spin) you can flip them in case they try to do
> that instead. That solves the race condition just as well.
Ok, gotcha.
We'd still need a safe way to check if they're in user space though.
How about with a TIF_IN_USERSPACE thread flag? It could be cleared/set
right at the border. Then for running tasks it's as simple as:
if (test_tsk_thread_flag(task, TIF_IN_USERSPACE))
klp_switch_task_universe(task);
--
Josh
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-02-19 17:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-02-16 18:52 [PATCH 0/3] prevent /proc/<pid>/stack garbage for running tasks Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-16 18:52 ` [PATCH 1/3] sched: add sched_task_call() Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-16 20:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-16 22:05 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-17 9:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-17 14:12 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-17 18:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-17 21:25 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-18 15:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-18 17:12 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-19 0:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-19 4:17 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-19 10:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-19 16:24 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-19 16:33 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2015-02-19 17:03 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-19 17:08 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-02-19 17:19 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2015-02-19 17:32 ` Josh Poimboeuf [this message]
2015-02-19 17:48 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2015-02-19 20:40 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2015-02-19 21:42 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-20 7:46 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-02-20 8:49 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-02-20 9:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-02-20 10:02 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-02-20 10:44 ` live patching design (was: Re: [PATCH 1/3] sched: add sched_task_call()) Ingo Molnar
2015-02-20 10:58 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-02-20 19:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-02-20 21:46 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2015-02-20 22:08 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-21 18:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-02-22 8:52 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-02-22 10:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-02-22 19:18 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-02-23 12:43 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-02-24 10:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-02-21 18:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-02-21 18:57 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-02-21 19:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-02-21 19:31 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-02-21 19:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-02-21 20:10 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-02-21 20:53 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-02-22 8:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-02-22 9:08 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-02-22 9:46 ` live kernel upgrades (was: live kernel patching design) Ingo Molnar
2015-02-22 10:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-02-22 10:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-02-22 19:13 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-02-22 23:01 ` Andrew Morton
2015-02-23 0:18 ` Dave Airlie
2015-02-23 0:44 ` Arjan van de Ven
2015-02-23 8:17 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-02-23 10:42 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-02-23 11:08 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2015-02-23 11:50 ` Pavel Machek
2015-02-24 9:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-02-24 12:28 ` Jiri Slaby
2015-03-05 0:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-02-23 6:35 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2015-02-24 9:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-02-24 12:12 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2015-02-24 10:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-02-24 12:19 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2015-02-22 14:37 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-22 16:40 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-22 19:03 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-02-24 10:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-02-24 11:10 ` Petr Mladek
2015-02-24 12:36 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2015-02-23 11:39 ` Pavel Machek
2015-02-24 10:25 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-02-24 12:11 ` Jiri Slaby
2015-02-24 13:18 ` live kernel upgrades Pavel Emelyanov
2015-02-20 16:12 ` [PATCH 1/3] sched: add sched_task_call() Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-20 20:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-02-20 21:22 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-20 17:05 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-19 21:26 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-02-19 21:38 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-02-19 23:11 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-16 18:52 ` [PATCH 2/3] stacktrace: add save_stack_trace_tsk_safe() Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-18 0:13 ` Andrew Morton
2015-02-20 9:32 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-02-16 18:52 ` [PATCH 3/3] proc: fix /proc/<pid>/stack for running tasks Josh Poimboeuf
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