From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Kirill Tkhai <ktkhai@parallels.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] [PATCH] sched: Add smp_rmb() in task rq locking cycles
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 21:23:19 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150220202319.GA21132@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150220184551.GQ2896@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On 02/20, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>
> I think I agree with Oleg in that we only need the smp_rmb(); of course
> that wants a somewhat elaborate comment to go along with it. How about
> something like so:
>
> spin_unlock_wait(&local);
> /*
> * The above spin_unlock_wait() forms a control dependency with
> * any following stores; because we must first observe the lock
> * unlocked and we cannot speculate stores.
> *
> * Subsequent loads however can easily pass through the loads
> * represented by spin_unlock_wait() and therefore we need the
> * read barrier.
> *
> * This together is stronger than ACQUIRE for @local and
> * therefore we will observe the complete prior critical section
> * of @local.
> */
> smp_rmb();
>
> The obvious alternative is using spin_unlock_wait() with an
> smp_load_acquire(), but that might be more expensive on some archs due
> to repeated issuing of memory barriers.
Yes, yes, thanks!
But note that we need the same comment after sem_lock()->spin_is_locked().
So perhaps we can add this comment into include/linux/spinlock.h ? In this
case perhaps it makes sense to add, say,
#define smp_mb__after_unlock_wait() smp_rmb()
with this comment above? Another potential user task_work_run(). It could
use rmb() too, but this again needs the same fat comment.
Ehat do you think?
Oleg.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-02-20 20:26 UTC|newest]
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[not found] <20150217104516.12144.85911.stgit@tkhai>
2015-02-17 10:47 ` [PATCH 2/2] [PATCH] sched: Add smp_rmb() in task rq locking cycles Kirill Tkhai
2015-02-17 12:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-17 12:36 ` Kirill Tkhai
2015-02-17 12:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-17 13:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-17 16:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-17 18:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-17 18:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-17 21:45 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-18 13:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-17 18:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-17 21:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-18 13:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-18 18:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-18 15:53 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-18 16:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-18 16:32 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-18 19:23 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-18 15:59 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-18 19:14 ` Manfred Spraul
2015-02-18 22:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-19 14:19 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-20 18:28 ` Manfred Spraul
2015-02-20 18:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-20 20:23 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2015-02-21 12:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-25 19:56 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-26 10:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-28 14:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-28 15:53 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-28 16:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-28 16:44 ` [PATCH] spinlock: clarify doc for raw_spin_unlock_wait() Chris Metcalf
2015-04-29 17:34 ` Manfred Spraul
2015-04-28 17:33 ` [PATCH 1/2] tile: modify arch_spin_unlock_wait() semantics Chris Metcalf
2015-04-28 17:33 ` [PATCH 2/2] tile: use READ_ONCE() in arch_spin_is_locked() Chris Metcalf
2015-04-28 16:40 ` [PATCH 2/2] [PATCH] sched: Add smp_rmb() in task rq locking cycles Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-28 16:58 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-28 17:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-28 18:00 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-28 18:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-28 18:38 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-28 14:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-28 20:33 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-21 3:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-23 18:29 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-18 17:05 ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Clarify ordering between task_rq_lock() and move_queued_task() tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
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