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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Kirill Tkhai <ktkhai@parallels.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] [PATCH] sched: Add smp_rmb() in task rq locking cycles
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 21:23:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150220202319.GA21132@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150220184551.GQ2896@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On 02/20, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>
> I think I agree with Oleg in that we only need the smp_rmb(); of course
> that wants a somewhat elaborate comment to go along with it. How about
> something like so:
>
> 	spin_unlock_wait(&local);
> 	/*
> 	 * The above spin_unlock_wait() forms a control dependency with
> 	 * any following stores; because we must first observe the lock
> 	 * unlocked and we cannot speculate stores.
> 	 *
> 	 * Subsequent loads however can easily pass through the loads
> 	 * represented by spin_unlock_wait() and therefore we need the
> 	 * read barrier.
> 	 *
> 	 * This together is stronger than ACQUIRE for @local and
> 	 * therefore we will observe the complete prior critical section
> 	 * of @local.
> 	 */
> 	 smp_rmb();
>
> The obvious alternative is using spin_unlock_wait() with an
> smp_load_acquire(), but that might be more expensive on some archs due
> to repeated issuing of memory barriers.

Yes, yes, thanks!

But note that we need the same comment after sem_lock()->spin_is_locked().

So perhaps we can add this comment into include/linux/spinlock.h ? In this
case perhaps it makes sense to add, say,

	#define smp_mb__after_unlock_wait()	smp_rmb()

with this comment above? Another potential user task_work_run(). It could
use rmb() too, but this again needs the same fat comment.

Ehat do you think?

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2015-02-20 20:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20150217104516.12144.85911.stgit@tkhai>
2015-02-17 10:47 ` [PATCH 2/2] [PATCH] sched: Add smp_rmb() in task rq locking cycles Kirill Tkhai
2015-02-17 12:12   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-17 12:36     ` Kirill Tkhai
2015-02-17 12:45       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-17 13:05     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-17 16:05       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-17 18:01         ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-17 18:23           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-17 21:45             ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-18 13:41               ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-17 18:36         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-17 21:52           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-18 13:47             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-18 18:43               ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-18 15:53             ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-18 16:11               ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-18 16:32                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-18 19:23                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-18 15:59             ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-18 19:14               ` Manfred Spraul
2015-02-18 22:43                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-19 14:19                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-20 18:28                     ` Manfred Spraul
2015-02-20 18:45                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-20 20:23                         ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2015-02-21 12:54                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-25 19:56                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-26 10:52                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-28 14:33                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-28 15:53                               ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-28 16:24                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-28 16:44                                   ` [PATCH] spinlock: clarify doc for raw_spin_unlock_wait() Chris Metcalf
2015-04-29 17:34                                     ` Manfred Spraul
2015-04-28 17:33                                   ` [PATCH 1/2] tile: modify arch_spin_unlock_wait() semantics Chris Metcalf
2015-04-28 17:33                                     ` [PATCH 2/2] tile: use READ_ONCE() in arch_spin_is_locked() Chris Metcalf
2015-04-28 16:40                                 ` [PATCH 2/2] [PATCH] sched: Add smp_rmb() in task rq locking cycles Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-28 16:58                                   ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-28 17:43                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-28 18:00                                       ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-28 18:24                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-28 18:38                                           ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-28 14:32                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-28 20:33                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-21  3:26                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-23 18:29                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-18 17:05     ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Clarify ordering between task_rq_lock() and move_queued_task() tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra

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