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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>
Cc: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	mingo@kernel.org, laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com,
	josh@joshtriplett.org, tglx@linutronix.de, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	dhowells@redhat.com, edumazet@google.com, dvhart@linux.intel.com,
	fweisbec@gmail.com, oleg@redhat.com, bobby.prani@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH tip/core/rcu 0/4] Programmatic nestable expedited grace periods
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 17:08:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150221160852.GI23367@worktop.ger.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54E772C3.30508@linux.intel.com>

On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 09:45:39AM -0800, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> On 2/20/2015 9:43 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 09:32:39AM -0800, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> >>there's a few others as well that I'm chasing down...
> >>.. but the flip side, prior to running ring 3 code, why NOT do fast expedites?
> >
> >So my objections are twofold:
> >
> >  - I object to fast expedites in principle; they spray IPIs across the
> >    system, so ideally we'd not have them at all, therefore also not at
> >    boot.
> >
> >    Because as soon as the option exists, people will use it for other
> >    things too.
> 
> the option exists today in sysfs and kernel parameter...

Yeah, Paul and me have been having this argument for a while now ;-)

> >And esp. in bootup code you can special case a lot of stuff; there's
> >limited concurrency esp. because userspace it not there yet. So we might
> >not actually need those sync calls.
> 
> yeah I am going down that angle as well absolutely.
> but there are cases that may well be legit (or are 5 function calls deep into common code)

Good ;-)

  reply	other threads:[~2015-02-21 16:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-20  5:08 [PATCH tip/core/rcu 0/4] Programmatic nestable expedited grace periods Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-20  5:09 ` [PATCH v2 RFC tip/core/rcu 1/4] rcu: Provide rcu_expedite_gp() and rcu_unexpedite_gp() Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-20  5:09   ` [PATCH v2 RFC tip/core/rcu 2/4] rcu: Add rcu_expedite_gp() and rcu_unexpedite_gp() to rcutorture Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-20  5:09   ` [PATCH v2 RFC tip/core/rcu 3/4] rcu: Update from rcu_expedited variable to rcu_gp_is_expedited() Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-20  5:09   ` [PATCH v2 RFC tip/core/rcu 4/4] rcu: Add Kconfig option to expedite grace periods during boot Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-20  9:11 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 0/4] Programmatic nestable expedited grace periods Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-20 16:37   ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-20 16:54     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-20 17:14       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-20 17:32         ` Arjan van de Ven
2015-02-20 17:43           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-20 17:45             ` Arjan van de Ven
2015-02-21 16:08               ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2015-02-22  1:43                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-20 18:38             ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-21 16:11               ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-21 17:59                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-20 18:27           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-20 18:29             ` Arjan van de Ven
2015-02-20 18:39               ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-21 15:51             ` Arjan van de Ven
2015-02-21 18:00               ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-22  3:58               ` Josh Triplett
2015-02-22  6:10                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-22 18:31                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2015-02-22 18:48                   ` Josh Triplett
2015-02-21  6:04       ` Josh Triplett
2015-02-21 15:12         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2015-02-21 23:58           ` Paul E. McKenney

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