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From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] x86: Move msr accesses out of line
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 19:20:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150225182032.GD823@two.firstfloor.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150225122701.GK5029@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>

> Still, I wondered, so I ran me a little test. Note that I used a
> serializing instruction (LOCK XCHG) because WRMSR is too.

WRMSR has a lot of uops internally unlike LOCK XCHG, so I expect it
will mostly overlap with what it does. I'll run some benchmarks on
this today.

Also we do quite a few RDMSRs, which are not necessarily
serializing.

> I see a ~14 cycle difference between the inline and noinline version.
> 
> If I substitute the LOCK XCHG with XADD, I get to 1,5 cycles in
> difference, so clearly there is some magic happening, but serializing
> instructions wreck it.
> 
> Anybody can explain how such RSP deps get magiced away?

On Intel Core (since Yonah), the CPU frontend has a special
stack tracker that avoids these dependencies.

See 2.3.2.5 in the optimization manual

Also BTW just from tracing MSRs there is a lot of optimization
potential. Will send some patches later.

-Andi

  reply	other threads:[~2015-02-25 18:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-21  1:38 [PATCH 1/3] x86: Move msr accesses out of line Andi Kleen
2015-02-21  1:38 ` [PATCH 2/3] x86: Add trace point for MSR accesses Andi Kleen
2015-02-21  1:38 ` [PATCH 3/3] perf, x86: Remove old MSR perf tracing code Andi Kleen
2015-02-23 17:04 ` [PATCH 1/3] x86: Move msr accesses out of line Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-23 17:43   ` Andi Kleen
2015-02-25 12:27     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-25 18:20       ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2015-02-25 18:34         ` Borislav Petkov
2015-02-26 11:43     ` [RFC][PATCH] module: Optimize __module_address() using a latched RB-tree Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-26 12:00       ` Ingo Molnar
2015-02-26 14:12       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-27 11:51         ` Rusty Russell
2015-02-26 16:02       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2015-02-26 16:43         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-26 16:55           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2015-02-26 17:16             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-26 17:22             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-26 18:28           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-26 19:06             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2015-02-26 19:13             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-26 19:41               ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-26 19:45                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-26 22:32                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-26 20:52                 ` Andi Kleen
2015-02-26 22:36                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-27 10:01                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-28 23:30                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-28 16:41               ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-28 16:56                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-28 23:32                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-03-02  9:24                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-02 16:58                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-27 12:02       ` Rusty Russell
2015-02-27 14:30         ` Peter Zijlstra
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-03-20  0:29 Updated MSR tracing patchkit v2 Andi Kleen
2015-03-20  0:29 ` [PATCH 1/3] x86: Move msr accesses out of line Andi Kleen

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