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From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@ubuntu.com>,
	Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@canonical.com>,
	Aaron Jones <aaronmdjones@gmail.com>, "Ted Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	LSM List <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Andrew G. Morgan" <morgan@kernel.org>,
	Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Austin S Hemmelgarn <ahferroin7@gmail.com>,
	Markku Savela <msa@moth.iki.fi>,
	Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] capabilities: Ambient capability set V1
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 14:55:12 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150226205512.GA19273@mail.hallyn.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrUB1bb4TiiBgdAMVtRJcEAoDzuOH+StTLPVL8QiXXdOfQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 12:51:57PM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 12:34 PM, Serge E. Hallyn <serge@hallyn.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 02:13:00PM -0600, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> >> On Thu, 26 Feb 2015, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> >>
> >> > Andrew Morgan was against that.  What if we changed
> >> >
> >> > pE' = pP' & (fE | pA)
> >> >
> >> > to
> >> >
> >> >     if (pA)
> >> >             pE' = pP' & fE
> >> >     else
> >> >             pE' = pP'
> >> >
> >>
> >> Same problem as before. The ambient bits will not be set in pE'.
> >
> > And what if I weren't scatterbrained and we did
> >
> >         if (pA)
> >                 pE' = pP'
> >         else
> >                 pE' = pP' & fE
> >
> > All pP' bits would be set in pE'.
> 
> That seems reasonable to me, except for my paranoia:
> 
> What if there's a program with CAP_DAC_OVERRIDE in fP and fE set to
> the empty set (i.e. the magic effective bit cleared), and the program
> relies on that.  A malicious user has CAP_NET_BIND and sets pA =
> CAP_NET_BIND.  Boom!
> 
> If we changed that to if (pA') and zeroed pA if fP is non-empty then
> this problem goes away.

Hm, the problem is that then the empty pA is inherited by children.
I do see that any program with fP set should probably run with only
what it requested.  Would

         if (pA && is_empty(fP))
                 pE' = pP'
         else
                 pE' = pP' & fE

help?  Or are you worried about a program with fP set which then
executes other programs?

  reply	other threads:[~2015-02-26 20:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-05 21:56 [PATCH] capabilities: Ambient capability set V1 Christoph Lameter
2015-02-23 14:58 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-02-23 15:44   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-23 15:53     ` Christoph Lameter
2015-02-23 15:59       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-23 16:41         ` Christoph Lameter
2015-02-23 23:51           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-24 15:48             ` Christoph Lameter
2015-02-23 16:16   ` Serge Hallyn
2015-02-23 16:33     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-23 16:45       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-02-23 16:47       ` Christoph Lameter
2015-02-23 16:44     ` Christoph Lameter
2015-02-23 16:46       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-02-23 16:50         ` Christoph Lameter
2015-02-23 18:15           ` Serge Hallyn
2015-02-23 18:27             ` Christoph Lameter
2015-02-24  5:19             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-02-24 15:47               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-02-24 15:58                 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-02-24 16:44                   ` Serge Hallyn
2015-02-24 17:28                     ` Christoph Lameter
2015-02-25  3:32                       ` Serge Hallyn
2015-02-25 20:25                         ` Christoph Lameter
2015-02-26 15:35                           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-02-26 18:28                             ` Christoph Lameter
2015-02-26 19:32                               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-02-26 19:38                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-26 20:16                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2015-02-26 20:33                                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-02-26 20:13                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-02-26 20:34                                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-02-26 20:51                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-26 20:55                                       ` Serge E. Hallyn [this message]
2015-02-26 20:58                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-26 21:19                                           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-02-26 21:29                                           ` Christoph Lameter
2015-02-26 21:09                                     ` Christoph Lameter
2015-02-26 21:13                                       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-02-26 21:23                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2015-02-26 21:32                                           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-02-26 21:37                                             ` Christoph Lameter

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