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From: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
To: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, ddstreet@ieee.org, gunho.lee@lge.com,
	iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com, jmarchan@redhat.com, juno.choi@lge.com,
	mel@csn.ul.ie, ngupta@vflare.org, semenzato@google.com,
	sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com, sjennings@variantweb.net,
	mm-commits@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: + zram-support-compaction.patch added to -mm tree
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2015 11:21:27 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150309022127.GF15184@blaptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150309020717.GC794@swordfish>

On Mon, Mar 09, 2015 at 11:07:17AM +0900, Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:
> On (03/09/15 10:47), Minchan Kim wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > It's not enough. What I want to know is compaction efficiency per client of
> > > > zsmalloc(ie, zram). 
> > > >
> > > 
> > > so what a typical user can do with this information? isn't it an entirely
> > > debug info that makes some hidden sense only to developers?
> > 
> > Absolutely true.
> > 
> > > 
> > > if you insist on exporting this as a zram stat for everyone how obout
> > > starting to move away from per-stat RO sysfs attrs. it seems that we have
> > > uncomfortably a lot of sysfs attrs, and that doesn't make life easier in
> > > user space. for example, block devices have /sys/block/.../stat file:
> > > 
> > > /sys/block/sda$ cat stat
> > >    45931       59  2075686   289906    55768     9229  1967800   318033        0   193583   607806
> > > 
> > > and there are no num_reads, num_writes, num_failed_reads, num_failed_writes,
> > > etc., etc. per-stat sysfs attrs force user-space to do lots of syscalls:
> > > open(), read(), close() with error control on every step; for every stat.
> > 
> > I absoulte agree with you and I really wanted to tidy it up but was no
> > time. Sergey, Could you contribute? If you have no time, I will do by
> > myself but it would be low priority now.
> 
> sure. I can handle it.

Thanks!

> 
> 
> I was thinking for some time already about splitting stats that we
> export in two categories and, thus, two files: IO_stats and MM_stats.
> 
> zram<id>/io_stat
> 
> s*printf( num_reads, num_writes, failed_reads, failed_writes, etc.)

Some of it(ie, num_reads, num_writes) was duplicated with /dev/block/zramx/stat?
I know /dev/block/zramx/stat doesn't work now and I didn't check why it doesn't
work but I hope we make it work so remove duplicate stat, finally. :)

> 
> zram<id>/mm_stat
> s*printf( orig_data_size, compr_data_size, mem_used_total, num_migrated, etc.)
> 
> 
> 
> so hoprefully in several years we can entirely remove ZRAM_ATTR_RO functions.
> probably, first moving them under #ifdef CONFIG_OLD_ZRAM_STATS at some point
> in the future.

Sounds good so we could warn for 1 or 2 years if users are about to use old stat
and finally removes deprecated stat.
Please Cc util-linux zram-control peoples when you send patchset.

> 
> 	-ss

-- 
Kind regards,
Minchan Kim

  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-09  2:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <54f780fc.3sOWZKr7rufmI85r%akpm@linux-foundation.org>
2015-03-05  0:18 ` + zram-support-compaction.patch added to -mm tree Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-03-05  0:30   ` Minchan Kim
2015-03-05  5:29 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-03-05 11:43   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-03-09  0:49   ` Minchan Kim
2015-03-09  0:57     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-03-09  1:05       ` Minchan Kim
2015-03-09  1:27         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-03-09  1:47           ` Minchan Kim
2015-03-09  2:07             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-03-09  2:21               ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2015-03-09  6:48                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-03-09 14:56                   ` Minchan Kim
2015-03-10  5:37                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky

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