From: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
To: Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>
Cc: Seth Jennings <sjenning@redhat.com>,
Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.cz>,
Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>,
live-patching@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
jslaby@suse.cz, mbenes@suse.cz
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/9] livepatch: consistency model
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 16:30:17 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150310213017.GA14122@treble.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.2.00.1503101657460.24876@pobox.suse.cz>
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 05:02:20PM -0400, Jiri Kosina wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Mar 2015, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
>
> > Just an update on the status of this RFC. Thanks to everybody for all
> > the useful comments. I plan to incorporate the resulting changes in an
> > eventual v2 of this patch set.
> >
> > But, as Peter and Ingo have pointed out, stack traces are indeed
> > unreliable. I have some ideas about how to improve them, coming soon in
> > another RFC, which will be a prerequisite for this patch set.
>
> Thanks for the update. Just FYI, in parallel, Jiri Slaby (with help from a
> few other people) (added to CC) is working on RFC on a per-thread patching
> on top of the livepatching core, so that we can actually compare pros and
> cons of both aproaches and implementations.
>
> It might still take some time before its finalized and sent out as a RFC,
> as I'd like it to also contain the "fake signal" task handling suggested
> by Ingo. Miroslav is working on that part.
Ok, thanks for the heads up.
I think the two approaches are complementary. _If_ we can make stack
checking safe, then IMO it's by far the most lightweight and least
disruptive option, so it should be the first wave of attack. We can use
that to transition most of the tasks.
Any remaining "straggler" tasks (which are either sleeping on a patched
function or have a potentially unreliable stack) can use something else
like fake signals.
--
Josh
prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-03-10 21:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-02-09 17:31 [RFC PATCH 0/9] livepatch: consistency model Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-09 17:31 ` [RFC PATCH 1/9] livepatch: simplify disable error path Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-13 12:25 ` Miroslav Benes
2015-02-18 17:03 ` Petr Mladek
2015-02-18 20:07 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-02-09 17:31 ` [RFC PATCH 2/9] livepatch: separate enabled and patched states Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-10 16:44 ` Jiri Slaby
2015-02-10 17:21 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-13 12:57 ` Miroslav Benes
2015-02-13 14:39 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-13 14:46 ` Miroslav Benes
2015-02-09 17:31 ` [RFC PATCH 3/9] livepatch: move patching functions into patch.c Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-10 18:27 ` Jiri Slaby
2015-02-10 18:50 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-13 14:28 ` Miroslav Benes
2015-02-13 15:09 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-09 17:31 ` [RFC PATCH 4/9] livepatch: get function sizes Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-10 18:30 ` Jiri Slaby
2015-02-10 18:53 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-09 17:31 ` [RFC PATCH 5/9] sched: move task rq locking functions to sched.h Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-10 10:48 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2015-02-10 14:54 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-09 17:31 ` [RFC PATCH 6/9] livepatch: create per-task consistency model Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-10 10:58 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2015-02-10 14:59 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-10 15:59 ` Miroslav Benes
2015-02-10 16:56 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-11 16:28 ` Miroslav Benes
2015-02-11 20:23 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-10 19:27 ` Seth Jennings
2015-02-10 19:32 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-11 10:21 ` Miroslav Benes
2015-02-11 20:19 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-12 10:45 ` Miroslav Benes
2015-02-12 3:21 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-12 11:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-12 12:25 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-02-12 12:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-12 12:39 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-02-12 12:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-12 12:42 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-02-12 13:01 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-12 12:51 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-12 13:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-12 13:16 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-02-12 14:20 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-12 14:27 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-02-12 13:16 ` Jiri Slaby
2015-02-12 13:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-12 14:08 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-02-12 15:24 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-12 14:20 ` Jiri Slaby
2015-02-12 14:32 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-02-18 20:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-02-18 20:44 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2015-02-19 9:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-19 10:11 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2015-02-19 10:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-12 13:26 ` Jiri Slaby
2015-02-12 15:48 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-14 11:40 ` Jiri Slaby
2015-02-17 14:59 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-16 14:19 ` Miroslav Benes
2015-02-17 15:10 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-17 15:48 ` Miroslav Benes
2015-02-17 16:01 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-18 12:42 ` Miroslav Benes
2015-02-18 13:15 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-18 13:42 ` Miroslav Benes
2015-02-09 17:31 ` [RFC PATCH 7/9] proc: add /proc/<pid>/universe to show livepatch status Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-10 18:47 ` Jiri Slaby
2015-02-10 18:57 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-09 17:31 ` [RFC PATCH 8/9] livepatch: allow patch modules to be removed Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-10 19:02 ` Jiri Slaby
2015-02-10 19:57 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-11 10:55 ` Jiri Slaby
2015-02-11 18:39 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-12 15:22 ` Miroslav Benes
2015-02-13 12:44 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-13 16:04 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-13 16:17 ` Miroslav Benes
2015-02-13 20:49 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-16 16:06 ` Miroslav Benes
2015-02-17 15:55 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-17 16:38 ` Miroslav Benes
2015-02-09 17:31 ` [RFC PATCH 9/9] livepatch: update task universe when exiting kernel Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-16 10:16 ` Jiri Slaby
2015-02-17 14:58 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-09 23:15 ` [RFC PATCH 0/9] livepatch: consistency model Jiri Kosina
2015-02-10 3:05 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-10 7:21 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-02-10 8:57 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-02-10 14:43 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-10 11:16 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2015-02-10 15:59 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-10 17:29 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-13 10:14 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-02-13 14:19 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-13 14:22 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-02-13 14:40 ` Miroslav Benes
2015-02-13 14:55 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-13 14:41 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-02-24 11:27 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2015-03-10 16:23 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-03-10 21:02 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-03-10 21:30 ` Josh Poimboeuf [this message]
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