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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Nicholas Miell <nmiell@comcast.net>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Alan Cox <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] sys_membarrier(): system/process-wide memory barrier (x86) (v12)
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 09:48:05 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150317164805.GL3589@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1311724860.20775.1426610187883.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com>

On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 04:36:27PM +0000, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 01:45:25AM +0000, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> [...]
> > > 
> > > > Would you see it as acceptable if we start by implementing
> > > > only the non-expedited sys_membarrier() ?
> > > 
> > > Sure.
> > > 
> > > > Then we can add
> > > > the expedited-private implementation after rq->curr becomes
> > > > available through RCU.
> > > 
> > > Yeah, or not at all; I'm still trying to get Paul to remove the
> > > expedited nonsense from the kernel RCU bits; and now you want it in
> > > userspace too :/
> > 
> > The non-expedited case makes sense when we batch RCU work
> > with call_rcu. However, some users require to use synchronize_rcu()
> > directly after modifying their data structure. Therefore, the
> > latency associated with sys_membarrier() then becomes important,
> > hence the interest for an expedited scheme.
> > 
> > I agree that we should try to find a way to implement it with
> > low disturbance on the CPU's rq locks. I'd be certainly
> > OK with starting with just the non-expedited scheme, and add
> > the expedited scheme later on. This is why we have the flags
> > anyway.
> 
> Paul, I'm currently reworking the patch to keep only the
> non-expedited scheme. I don't need to touch the scheduler
> internals anymore, so should I move the sys_membarrier
> system call implementation into kernel/rcu/update.c ?

Can't see why that wouldn't work.  ;-)

						Thanx, Paul


  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-17 16:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-15 19:24 [RFC PATCH] sys_membarrier(): system/process-wide memory barrier (x86) (v12) Mathieu Desnoyers
2015-03-15 22:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-03-16  3:25 ` Josh Triplett
2015-03-16 13:00   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2015-03-16 14:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-16 14:24   ` Steven Rostedt
2015-03-16 15:49     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2015-03-16 15:49     ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-03-16 16:12       ` Steven Rostedt
2015-03-16 15:43   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2015-03-16 15:57     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2015-03-16 17:13     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-16 17:21     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-16 18:53       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2015-03-16 20:54         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-17  1:45           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2015-03-17  2:26             ` Steven Rostedt
2015-03-17  6:40               ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-17 11:44                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-03-17 14:10                   ` Steven Rostedt
2015-03-17 16:35                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-03-17 12:46               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2015-03-18  1:06                 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-03-17  6:30             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-17 11:56               ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-03-17 12:01                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-03-17 13:13               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2015-03-17 16:36                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2015-03-17 16:48                   ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2015-03-17 17:55                   ` josh
2015-03-17 16:37                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-17 16:49                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-03-17 17:00                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-16 17:24     ` Peter Zijlstra

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