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From: Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Roger Quadros <rogerq@ti.com>,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, balbi@ti.com,
	dan.j.williams@intel.com, peter.chen@freescale.com,
	jun.li@freescale.com, mathias.nyman@linux.intel.com,
	linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-omap@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/9] usb: hcd: Introduce usb_start/stop_hcd()
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 19:38:07 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150319023807.GB31346@atomide.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1503182147410.32267-100000@netrider.rowland.org>

* Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu> [150318 18:51]:
> On Wed, 18 Mar 2015, Tony Lindgren wrote:
> 
> > > If the host controller is started more than once, you will end up
> > > unregistering and re-registering the root hub.  The device core does
> > > not allow this.  Once a device has been unregistered, you must not try
> > > to register it again -- you have to allocate a new device and register
> > > it instead.
> > > 
> > > Also, although you call the driver's ->start method multiple times, the
> > > ->reset method is called only once, when the controller is first 
> > > probed.  It's not clear that this will work in a situation where the HC 
> > > and the UDC share hardware state; after the UDC is stopped it may be 
> > > necessary to reset the HC before it can run again.
> > > 
> > > It might be possible to make this work, but I suspect quite a few 
> > > drivers would need rewriting first.  As another example of the problems 
> > > you face, consider how stopping a host controller will interact with 
> > > the driver's PM support (both system suspend and runtime suspend).
> > > 
> > > It would be a lot simpler to unbind the host controller driver
> > > completely when switching to device mode and rebind it when switching
> > > back.  I guess that is the sort of heavy-duty approach you want to
> > > avoid, but it may be the only practical way forward.
> > 
> > Hmm from memory I think the OTG spec assumes the USB devices are
> > suspended when attempting the role change? I could be totally wrong,
> > it's been a really long time since I've looked at the OTG spec, but
> > maybe that would make it easier to deal with thing?
> 
> This patch deals with the host side, not the device side.  The fact
> that the device is suspended is not relevant to the issues above.

OK, got it.
 
> Besides, the problems I outlined are more connected with the way 
> Linux's host-side USB stack is organized, and not so much with the 
> details of the OTG spec.

Yes thanks for the explanation.

Regards,

Tony

  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-19  2:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-18 13:55 [RFC][PATCH 0/9] USB: OTG Core functionality Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/9] usb: hcd: Introduce usb_start/stop_hcd() Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 19:49   ` Alan Stern
2015-03-18 21:41     ` Tony Lindgren
2015-03-19  1:51       ` Alan Stern
2015-03-19  2:38         ` Tony Lindgren [this message]
2015-03-19 11:38     ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-19 14:17       ` Alan Stern
2015-03-20  6:32       ` Peter Chen
2015-03-20  9:49         ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-19  1:46   ` Peter Chen
2015-03-18 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/9] usb: gadget: add usb_gadget_start/stop() Roger Quadros
2015-03-19  3:30   ` Peter Chen
2015-03-19 10:14     ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-19 14:09       ` Li Jun
2015-03-19 14:50         ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-20  7:18           ` Peter Chen
2015-03-20  9:46             ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-20 11:08               ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-21  1:30                 ` Peter Chen
2015-03-18 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/9] usb: otg: add OTG core Roger Quadros
2015-03-19  3:40   ` Peter Chen
2015-03-19 10:18     ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-20  7:45       ` Peter Chen
2015-03-20  9:18         ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-20  9:32           ` Peter Chen
2015-03-19  8:26   ` Li Jun
2015-03-19 10:30     ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-19 14:41       ` Li Jun
2015-03-19 14:54         ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/9] usb: otg: hub: Notify OTG fsm when A device sets b_hnp_enable Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/9] usb: hcd: adapt to OTG Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 6/9] usb: gadget: udc: " Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 7/9] usb: dwc3: adapt to OTG core Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 8/9] usb: otg-fsm: Remove unused members in struct otg_fsm Roger Quadros
2015-03-19  3:46   ` Peter Chen
2015-03-19 10:20     ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 9/9] usb: otg-fsm: Add documentation for " Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 17:37 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/9] USB: OTG Core functionality Tony Lindgren
2015-03-19 10:31   ` Roger Quadros

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