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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Denys Vlasenko <dvlasenk@redhat.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	hpa@zytor.com, stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] x86, ia32entry: Use sysretl to return from sysenter
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2015 09:35:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150328083533.GA1183@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9414b4dfad7ad90b0315323be32d977867719bd4.1427493165.git.luto@kernel.org>


* Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> wrote:

> Sysexit is scary on 64-bit kernels -- sysexit must be invoked with
> usergs and IRQs on.  That means that we rely on sti to correctly
> mask interrupts for one instruction.  This is okay by itself, but
> the semantics with respect to NMIs are unclear.

At least judging by profiling output I think NMIs observe the STI 
window of one instruction non-execution as well. (But I'm not 100% 
sure.)

> Avoid the whole issue by using sysretl instead.  For background,
> Intel CPUs don't allow syscall from compat mode, but they do allow
> sysret back to compat mode.  Go figure.
> 
> Oddly this seems to be 30 cycles or so faster.  Avoiding popfq and
> sti will account for under half of that, I think, so my best guess
> is that Intel just optimizes sysret much better than sysexit.
> 
> Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org

I like it, but no way is this automatic -stable material ... if proven 
upstream we can forward it as a fix for SYSEXIT fragility, but not 
automatically, IMHO.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-28  8:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-27 21:54 [RFC] x86, ia32entry: Use sysretl to return from sysenter Andy Lutomirski
2015-03-28  8:35 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2015-03-28 15:17   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-03-29 12:58     ` Borislav Petkov
2015-03-29 19:07 ` Denys Vlasenko
2015-03-29 21:16   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-03-30  9:04     ` Borislav Petkov

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