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From: Jeremy Allison <jra@samba.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Jeremy Allison <jra@samba.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Milosz Tanski <milosz@adfin.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-aio@kvack.org, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Volker Lendecke <Volker.Lendecke@sernet.de>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>,
	"Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 0/5] vfs: Non-blockling buffered fs read (page cache only)
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 10:19:12 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150330171912.GB5835@samba2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150330073604.GB22229@infradead.org>

On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 12:36:04AM -0700, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 08:58:54AM -0700, Jeremy Allison wrote:
> > The problem with the above is that we can't tell the difference
> > between pread2() returning a short read because the pages are not
> > in cache, or because someone truncated the file. So we need some
> > way to differentiate this.
> 
> Is a race vs truncate really that time critical that you can't
> wait for the thread pool to do the second read to notice it?

Probably not, as this is the fallback path anyway.

> > My preference from userspace would be for pread2() to return
> > EAGAIN if *all* the data requested is not available (where
> > 'all' can be less than the size requested if the file has
> > been truncated in the meantime).
> 
> That is easily implementable, but I can see that for example web apps
> would be happy to get as much as possible.  So if Samba can be ok
> with short reads and only detecting the truncated case in the slow
> path that would make life simpler.  Otherwise we might indeed need two
> flags.

Simpler is better. I can live with the partial read+fallback.

Jeremy.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-30 17:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-16 18:27 [PATCH v7 0/5] vfs: Non-blockling buffered fs read (page cache only) Milosz Tanski
2015-03-16 18:27 ` [PATCH v7 1/5] vfs: Prepare for adding a new preadv/pwritev with user flags Milosz Tanski
2015-03-16 21:05   ` Andreas Dilger
2015-03-16 18:27 ` [PATCH v7 2/5] vfs: Define new syscalls preadv2,pwritev2 Milosz Tanski
2015-03-16 18:27 ` [PATCH v7 3/5] x86: wire up preadv2 and pwritev2 Milosz Tanski
2015-03-16 18:27 ` [PATCH v7 4/5] vfs: RWF_NONBLOCK flag for preadv2 Milosz Tanski
2015-03-16 18:27 ` [PATCH v7 5/5] xfs: add RWF_NONBLOCK support Milosz Tanski
2015-03-16 22:04   ` Dave Chinner
2015-03-16 18:32 ` [PATCH] Add preadv2/pwritev2 documentation Milosz Tanski
2015-03-27 16:49   ` Andrew Morton
2015-03-30  7:33     ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-03-16 18:34 ` [PATCH] fstests: generic test for preadv2 behavior on linux Milosz Tanski
2015-03-16 21:07   ` Andreas Dilger
2015-03-16 22:03     ` Milosz Tanski
2015-03-16 22:02   ` Dave Chinner
2015-03-16 22:11     ` Milosz Tanski
2015-03-16 22:56       ` Dave Chinner
2015-03-26 11:55 ` [PATCH v7 0/5] vfs: Non-blockling buffered fs read (page cache only) Christoph Hellwig
2015-03-26 19:12   ` Milosz Tanski
2015-03-27  2:29     ` Milosz Tanski
2015-03-27  3:28 ` Andrew Morton
2015-03-27  5:41   ` Volker Lendecke
2015-03-27  6:08     ` Andrew Morton
2015-03-27  8:02       ` Volker Lendecke
2015-03-27  8:12         ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-03-27  8:18   ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-03-27  8:35     ` Andrew Morton
2015-03-27  8:48       ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-03-27  9:01         ` Andrew Morton
2015-03-27  9:44           ` Volker Lendecke
2015-03-27 15:58           ` Jeremy Allison
2015-03-27 16:30             ` Andrew Morton
2015-03-27 16:39               ` Jeremy Allison
2015-03-27 16:39               ` Andrew Morton
2015-03-27 16:45               ` Milosz Tanski
2015-03-31  1:27               ` Milosz Tanski
2015-03-27 16:38             ` Milosz Tanski
2015-03-30  7:36             ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-03-30 17:19               ` Jeremy Allison [this message]
2015-03-30 22:51                 ` Milosz Tanski
2015-03-30 20:26               ` Andrew Morton
2015-03-30 20:32                 ` Jeremy Allison
2015-03-30 20:37                   ` Andrew Morton
2015-03-30 20:49                     ` Jeremy Allison
2015-03-30 21:33                       ` Andrew Morton
2015-03-30 22:35                     ` Milosz Tanski
2015-03-30 22:49                   ` Milosz Tanski
2015-03-30 22:57                     ` Andrew Morton
2015-03-30 23:06                       ` Milosz Tanski
2015-03-30 23:25                 ` Milosz Tanski
2015-04-04  3:42                 ` Andrew Morton
2015-04-06  3:53                   ` Milosz Tanski
2015-03-30 23:09               ` Milosz Tanski
2015-03-27 15:21   ` Milosz Tanski
2015-03-27 17:04     ` Andrew Morton
2015-03-30  7:40       ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-03-30 18:54         ` Andrew Morton
2015-03-30 22:40           ` Milosz Tanski
2015-03-30 22:50             ` Andrew Morton

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