From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@ezchip.com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Don Zickus <dzickus@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] smpboot: allow excluding cpus from the smpboot threads
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 23:54:25 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150413215423.GA6121@lerouge> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <552BE99A.1050607@ezchip.com>
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 12:06:50PM -0400, Chris Metcalf wrote:
> >>The problem with the code you provided, as I see it, is that the cpumask
> >>field being kept in the struct smp_hotplug_thread is awkward to
> >>initialize while keeping the default that it doesn't have to be mentioned
> >>in the initializer for the client's structure. To make this work, in the
> >>register function you have to check for a NULL pointer (for OFFSTACK)
> >>and then allocate and initialize to cpu_possible_mask, but in the
> >>!OFFSTACK case you could just require that an empty mask really means
> >>cpu_possible_mask, which seems like an unfortunate overloading.
> >If the field is of type "struct cpumask *", just checking NULL is enough.
> >I don't think OFFSTACK changes anything. This only changes the allocation
> >on the client side. But the pointer passed to the "struct smp_hotplug_thread"
> >is the same and that's all transparent to the smpboot subsystem.
> >
> >Also if the cpumask is NULL on that struct (default), let the smpboot
> >subsystem attribute cpu_possible_mask to it (no need to allocate a copy).
> >Well this could even not be overwritten and handled by smpboot_thread_unpark()
> >itself.
>
> As you saw, I adopted the "struct cpumask *" approach in my current
> (v7) patchset last Friday:
>
> https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/4/10/750
>
> There are really two ways to handle this:
>
> 1. The client owns the cpumask, and notifies the smpboot subsystem
> whenever it has finished a round of changes to the cpumask so that
> they can take effect. There is a technical race here where the smpboot
> subsystem might look at the mask as it is being updated, but this is
> OK since worst-case is a thread on a newly-brought-up core is incorrectly
> parked or unparked, but that is corrected immediately when the client
> calls in to say it has finished updating the mask.
>
> 2. The smpboot subsystem owns the cpumask, and it's only updated
> by having the client call in to pass a new mask. This avoids the technical
> race, but it does mean that the client can't update a field that it
> allocated
> and provided to the subsystem, which feels a bit unnatural.
That's actually a common pattern. Check out struct timer_list,
it is allocated and pre-filled by the client. The "expires" field is
initialized by the client which then calls add_timer() to arm it.
Now if you want to modify the expiration of the timer while it's
queued, raw-modifying the "expires" field won't work much as expected.
You need to do that through mod_timer().
You seldom can directly change the field of an object while it's live
handled by another subsystem.
>
> Either one could be OK, but I opted for #1. What do you think of it?
>
> Also, I want to ask Linus to pull the tile-specific changes for nohz_full
> for the tile architecture. This includes a copy of the change to add the
> tick_nohz_full_add_cpus_to() and tick_nohz_full_remove_cpus_from()
> routines here:
>
> https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/4/9/792
Let's see that on the thread.
>
> which I used to fix the tilegx network driver's default irq affinity mask.
>
> There's also the support for tile's nohz_full in general, which you
> commented on, but didn't provide an explicit Ack for:
>
> https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/3/24/953
Right, I'll have a look at this.
Thanks.
>
> If you'd like to nack either change, or better yet ack them, let me know.
> I'll wait a little while before asking Linus to pull.
>
> The tile tree stuff to be pulled for v4.1 is here:
>
> http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/cmetcalf/linux-tile.git/log/
>
> if you want to look more closely.
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> Chris Metcalf, EZChip Semiconductor
> http://www.ezchip.com
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-04-13 21:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-03-30 18:51 [PATCH] watchdog: nohz: don't run watchdog on nohz_full cores cmetcalf
2015-03-30 19:12 ` Don Zickus
2015-03-30 19:32 ` [PATCH v2] " Chris Metcalf
2015-03-30 20:02 ` Don Zickus
2015-04-02 15:19 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-03-31 2:04 ` [PATCH] " Mike Galbraith
2015-03-31 6:34 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-03-31 18:32 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-03-31 7:25 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-03-31 18:30 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-02 13:35 ` Don Zickus
2015-04-02 13:49 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-02 14:15 ` Don Zickus
2015-04-02 15:38 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-04-02 15:42 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-02 16:08 ` Don Zickus
2015-04-02 16:48 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-04-02 17:39 ` [PATCH v3] watchdog: add watchdog_cpumask sysctl to assist nohz cmetcalf
2015-04-02 18:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-02 18:16 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-02 18:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-02 18:49 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-02 18:45 ` Don Zickus
2015-04-03 16:08 ` [PATCH v4 1/2] smpboot: allow excluding cpus from the smpboot threads cmetcalf
2015-04-03 16:08 ` [PATCH v4 2/2] watchdog: add watchdog_exclude sysctl to assist nohz cmetcalf
2015-04-05 16:46 ` Ulrich Obergfell
2015-04-06 19:45 ` [PATCH v5 0/2] nohz/watchdog/smp_hotplug_thread changes cmetcalf
2015-04-06 19:45 ` [PATCH v5 1/2] smpboot: allow excluding cpus from the smpboot threads cmetcalf
2015-04-08 13:28 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-04-08 14:06 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-08 17:29 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-04-06 19:45 ` [PATCH v5 2/2] watchdog: add watchdog_exclude sysctl to assist nohz cmetcalf
2015-04-07 15:44 ` Don Zickus
2015-04-07 15:56 ` Sasha Levin
2015-04-07 17:49 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-08 14:01 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-04-08 19:11 ` [PATCH v6 1/2] smpboot: allow excluding cpus from the smpboot threads cmetcalf
2015-04-08 19:11 ` [PATCH v6 2/2] watchdog: add watchdog_cpumask sysctl to assist nohz cmetcalf
2015-04-08 20:37 ` [PATCH v6 1/2] smpboot: allow excluding cpus from the smpboot threads Thomas Gleixner
2015-04-09 20:29 ` [PATCH] " Chris Metcalf
2015-04-10 1:58 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-04-10 16:33 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-12 19:14 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-04-13 16:06 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-13 21:54 ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2015-04-14 19:37 ` [PATCH v8 1/3] " Chris Metcalf
2015-04-14 19:37 ` [PATCH v8 2/3] watchdog: add watchdog_cpumask sysctl to assist nohz Chris Metcalf
2015-04-16 10:46 ` Ulrich Obergfell
2015-04-17 15:41 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-22 8:20 ` Ulrich Obergfell
2015-04-28 17:52 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-29 8:48 ` Ulrich Obergfell
2015-04-17 1:31 ` Chai Wen
2015-04-17 16:10 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-14 19:37 ` [PATCH v8 3/3] procfs: treat parked tasks as sleeping for task state Chris Metcalf
2015-04-16 15:28 ` [PATCH v8 1/3] smpboot: allow excluding cpus from the smpboot threads Frederic Weisbecker
2015-04-16 15:50 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-16 16:48 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-04-17 16:17 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-17 18:37 ` [PATCH v9 " Chris Metcalf
2015-04-17 18:37 ` [PATCH v9 2/3] watchdog: add watchdog_cpumask sysctl to assist nohz Chris Metcalf
2015-04-21 12:32 ` Ulrich Obergfell
2015-04-28 18:07 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-29 9:49 ` Ulrich Obergfell
2015-04-29 13:10 ` Don Zickus
2015-04-21 14:07 ` Ulrich Obergfell
2015-04-22 15:18 ` Don Zickus
2015-04-25 15:42 ` Ulrich Obergfell
2015-04-22 11:02 ` Ulrich Obergfell
2015-04-22 15:21 ` Don Zickus
2015-04-27 20:27 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-28 15:17 ` Don Zickus
2015-04-28 19:42 ` Andrew Morton
2015-04-30 19:39 ` [PATCH v10 0/3] add watchdog_cpumask to help nohz_full Chris Metcalf
2015-04-30 19:39 ` [PATCH v10 1/3] smpboot: allow excluding cpus from the smpboot threads Chris Metcalf
2015-05-01 8:53 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-05-01 19:57 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-05-01 21:23 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-05-04 22:06 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-06-03 2:34 ` Don Zickus
2015-06-04 17:25 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-05-01 20:00 ` [PATCH] smpboot: dynamically allocate the cpumask Chris Metcalf
2015-04-30 19:39 ` [PATCH v10 2/3] watchdog: add watchdog_cpumask sysctl to assist nohz Chris Metcalf
2015-04-30 20:00 ` Don Zickus
2015-04-30 20:09 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-05-01 13:46 ` Don Zickus
2015-04-30 19:39 ` [PATCH v10 3/3] procfs: treat parked tasks as sleeping for task state Chris Metcalf
2015-04-29 22:26 ` [PATCH v9 2/3] watchdog: add watchdog_cpumask sysctl to assist nohz Andrew Morton
2015-04-29 22:26 ` Andrew Morton
2015-04-17 18:37 ` [PATCH v9 3/3] procfs: treat parked tasks as sleeping for task state Chris Metcalf
2015-04-29 22:26 ` Andrew Morton
2015-04-29 22:26 ` [PATCH v9 1/3] smpboot: allow excluding cpus from the smpboot threads Andrew Morton
2015-04-30 16:07 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-14 15:23 ` [PATCH] " Frederic Weisbecker
2015-04-14 15:39 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-14 17:57 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-04-10 20:48 ` [PATCH v7 1/3] " Chris Metcalf
2015-04-10 20:48 ` [PATCH v7 2/3] watchdog: add watchdog_cpumask sysctl to assist nohz Chris Metcalf
2015-04-10 20:48 ` [PATCH v7 3/3] procfs: treat parked tasks as sleeping for task state Chris Metcalf
2015-04-10 21:11 ` [PATCH v7 1/3] smpboot: allow excluding cpus from the smpboot threads Andrew Morton
2015-04-13 15:48 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-08 19:21 ` [PATCH v5 2/2] watchdog: add watchdog_exclude sysctl to assist nohz Chris Metcalf
2015-04-08 22:31 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-03-31 10:17 ` [PATCH] watchdog: nohz: don't run watchdog on nohz_full cores Christoph Lameter
2015-03-31 18:39 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-02 14:13 ` Christoph Lameter
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