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From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@ezchip.com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Don Zickus <dzickus@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] smpboot: allow excluding cpus from the smpboot threads
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 23:54:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150413215423.GA6121@lerouge> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <552BE99A.1050607@ezchip.com>

On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 12:06:50PM -0400, Chris Metcalf wrote:
> >>The problem with the code you provided, as I see it, is that the cpumask
> >>field being kept in the struct smp_hotplug_thread is awkward to
> >>initialize while keeping the default that it doesn't have to be mentioned
> >>in the initializer for the client's structure. To make this work, in the
> >>register function you have to check for a NULL pointer (for OFFSTACK)
> >>and then allocate and initialize to cpu_possible_mask, but in the
> >>!OFFSTACK case you could just require that an empty mask really means
> >>cpu_possible_mask, which seems like an unfortunate overloading.
> >If the field is of type "struct cpumask *", just checking NULL is enough.
> >I don't think OFFSTACK changes anything. This only changes the allocation
> >on the client side. But the pointer passed to the "struct smp_hotplug_thread"
> >is the same and that's all transparent to the smpboot subsystem.
> >
> >Also if the cpumask is NULL on that struct (default), let the smpboot
> >subsystem attribute cpu_possible_mask to it (no need to allocate a copy).
> >Well this could even not be overwritten and handled by smpboot_thread_unpark()
> >itself.
> 
> As you saw, I adopted the "struct cpumask *" approach in my current
> (v7) patchset last Friday:
> 
> https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/4/10/750
> 
> There are really two ways to handle this:
> 
> 1. The client owns the cpumask, and notifies the smpboot subsystem
> whenever it has finished a round of changes to the cpumask so that
> they can take effect.  There is a technical race here where the smpboot
> subsystem might look at the mask as it is being updated, but this is
> OK since worst-case is a thread on a newly-brought-up core is incorrectly
> parked or unparked, but that is corrected immediately when the client
> calls in to say it has finished updating the mask.
> 
> 2. The smpboot subsystem owns the cpumask, and it's only updated
> by having the client call in to pass a new mask.  This avoids the technical
> race, but it does mean that the client can't update a field that it
> allocated
> and provided to the subsystem, which feels a bit unnatural.

That's actually a common pattern. Check out struct timer_list,
it is allocated and pre-filled by the client. The "expires" field is
initialized by the client which then calls add_timer() to arm it.
Now if you want to modify the expiration of the timer while it's
queued, raw-modifying the "expires" field won't work much as expected.
You need to do that through mod_timer().

You seldom can directly change the field of an object while it's live
handled by another subsystem.

> 
> Either one could be OK, but I opted for #1.  What do you think of it?
> 
> Also, I want to ask Linus to pull the tile-specific changes for nohz_full
> for the tile architecture.  This includes a copy of the change to add the
> tick_nohz_full_add_cpus_to() and tick_nohz_full_remove_cpus_from()
> routines here:
> 
> https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/4/9/792

Let's see that on the thread.

> 
> which I used to fix the tilegx network driver's default irq affinity mask.
> 
> There's also the support for tile's nohz_full in general, which you
> commented on, but didn't provide an explicit Ack for:
> 
> https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/3/24/953

Right, I'll have a look at this.

Thanks.

> 
> If you'd like to nack either change, or better yet ack them, let me know.
> I'll wait a little while before asking Linus to pull.
> 
> The tile tree stuff to be pulled for v4.1 is here:
> 
> http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/cmetcalf/linux-tile.git/log/
> 
> if you want to look more closely.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -- 
> Chris Metcalf, EZChip Semiconductor
> http://www.ezchip.com
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-13 21:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-30 18:51 [PATCH] watchdog: nohz: don't run watchdog on nohz_full cores cmetcalf
2015-03-30 19:12 ` Don Zickus
2015-03-30 19:32   ` [PATCH v2] " Chris Metcalf
2015-03-30 20:02     ` Don Zickus
2015-04-02 15:19       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-03-31  2:04   ` [PATCH] " Mike Galbraith
2015-03-31  6:34     ` Mike Galbraith
2015-03-31 18:32     ` Chris Metcalf
2015-03-31  7:25 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-03-31 18:30   ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-02 13:35     ` Don Zickus
2015-04-02 13:49       ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-02 14:15         ` Don Zickus
2015-04-02 15:38           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-04-02 15:42             ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-02 16:08               ` Don Zickus
2015-04-02 16:48               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-04-02 17:39                 ` [PATCH v3] watchdog: add watchdog_cpumask sysctl to assist nohz cmetcalf
2015-04-02 18:06                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-02 18:16                     ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-02 18:33                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-02 18:49                         ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-02 18:45                   ` Don Zickus
2015-04-03 16:08                     ` [PATCH v4 1/2] smpboot: allow excluding cpus from the smpboot threads cmetcalf
2015-04-03 16:08                       ` [PATCH v4 2/2] watchdog: add watchdog_exclude sysctl to assist nohz cmetcalf
2015-04-05 16:46                         ` Ulrich Obergfell
2015-04-06 19:45                           ` [PATCH v5 0/2] nohz/watchdog/smp_hotplug_thread changes cmetcalf
2015-04-06 19:45                             ` [PATCH v5 1/2] smpboot: allow excluding cpus from the smpboot threads cmetcalf
2015-04-08 13:28                               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-04-08 14:06                                 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-08 17:29                                   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-04-06 19:45                             ` [PATCH v5 2/2] watchdog: add watchdog_exclude sysctl to assist nohz cmetcalf
2015-04-07 15:44                               ` Don Zickus
2015-04-07 15:56                               ` Sasha Levin
2015-04-07 17:49                                 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-08 14:01                               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-04-08 19:11                                 ` [PATCH v6 1/2] smpboot: allow excluding cpus from the smpboot threads cmetcalf
2015-04-08 19:11                                   ` [PATCH v6 2/2] watchdog: add watchdog_cpumask sysctl to assist nohz cmetcalf
2015-04-08 20:37                                   ` [PATCH v6 1/2] smpboot: allow excluding cpus from the smpboot threads Thomas Gleixner
2015-04-09 20:29                                     ` [PATCH] " Chris Metcalf
2015-04-10  1:58                                       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-04-10 16:33                                         ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-12 19:14                                           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-04-13 16:06                                             ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-13 21:54                                               ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2015-04-14 19:37                                                 ` [PATCH v8 1/3] " Chris Metcalf
2015-04-14 19:37                                                   ` [PATCH v8 2/3] watchdog: add watchdog_cpumask sysctl to assist nohz Chris Metcalf
2015-04-16 10:46                                                     ` Ulrich Obergfell
2015-04-17 15:41                                                       ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-22  8:20                                                         ` Ulrich Obergfell
2015-04-28 17:52                                                           ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-29  8:48                                                             ` Ulrich Obergfell
2015-04-17  1:31                                                     ` Chai Wen
2015-04-17 16:10                                                       ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-14 19:37                                                   ` [PATCH v8 3/3] procfs: treat parked tasks as sleeping for task state Chris Metcalf
2015-04-16 15:28                                                   ` [PATCH v8 1/3] smpboot: allow excluding cpus from the smpboot threads Frederic Weisbecker
2015-04-16 15:50                                                     ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-16 16:48                                                       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-04-17 16:17                                                     ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-17 18:37                                                     ` [PATCH v9 " Chris Metcalf
2015-04-17 18:37                                                       ` [PATCH v9 2/3] watchdog: add watchdog_cpumask sysctl to assist nohz Chris Metcalf
2015-04-21 12:32                                                         ` Ulrich Obergfell
2015-04-28 18:07                                                           ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-29  9:49                                                             ` Ulrich Obergfell
2015-04-29 13:10                                                             ` Don Zickus
2015-04-21 14:07                                                         ` Ulrich Obergfell
2015-04-22 15:18                                                           ` Don Zickus
2015-04-25 15:42                                                             ` Ulrich Obergfell
2015-04-22 11:02                                                         ` Ulrich Obergfell
2015-04-22 15:21                                                           ` Don Zickus
2015-04-27 20:27                                                             ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-28 15:17                                                               ` Don Zickus
2015-04-28 19:42                                                                 ` Andrew Morton
2015-04-30 19:39                                                                 ` [PATCH v10 0/3] add watchdog_cpumask to help nohz_full Chris Metcalf
2015-04-30 19:39                                                                   ` [PATCH v10 1/3] smpboot: allow excluding cpus from the smpboot threads Chris Metcalf
2015-05-01  8:53                                                                     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-05-01 19:57                                                                       ` Chris Metcalf
2015-05-01 21:23                                                                         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-05-04 22:06                                                                           ` Chris Metcalf
2015-06-03  2:34                                                                             ` Don Zickus
2015-06-04 17:25                                                                           ` Chris Metcalf
2015-05-01 20:00                                                                       ` [PATCH] smpboot: dynamically allocate the cpumask Chris Metcalf
2015-04-30 19:39                                                                   ` [PATCH v10 2/3] watchdog: add watchdog_cpumask sysctl to assist nohz Chris Metcalf
2015-04-30 20:00                                                                     ` Don Zickus
2015-04-30 20:09                                                                       ` Chris Metcalf
2015-05-01 13:46                                                                         ` Don Zickus
2015-04-30 19:39                                                                   ` [PATCH v10 3/3] procfs: treat parked tasks as sleeping for task state Chris Metcalf
2015-04-29 22:26                                                         ` [PATCH v9 2/3] watchdog: add watchdog_cpumask sysctl to assist nohz Andrew Morton
2015-04-29 22:26                                                         ` Andrew Morton
2015-04-17 18:37                                                       ` [PATCH v9 3/3] procfs: treat parked tasks as sleeping for task state Chris Metcalf
2015-04-29 22:26                                                         ` Andrew Morton
2015-04-29 22:26                                                       ` [PATCH v9 1/3] smpboot: allow excluding cpus from the smpboot threads Andrew Morton
2015-04-30 16:07                                                         ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-14 15:23                                               ` [PATCH] " Frederic Weisbecker
2015-04-14 15:39                                                 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-14 17:57                                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-04-10 20:48                                         ` [PATCH v7 1/3] " Chris Metcalf
2015-04-10 20:48                                           ` [PATCH v7 2/3] watchdog: add watchdog_cpumask sysctl to assist nohz Chris Metcalf
2015-04-10 20:48                                           ` [PATCH v7 3/3] procfs: treat parked tasks as sleeping for task state Chris Metcalf
2015-04-10 21:11                                           ` [PATCH v7 1/3] smpboot: allow excluding cpus from the smpboot threads Andrew Morton
2015-04-13 15:48                                             ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-08 19:21                                 ` [PATCH v5 2/2] watchdog: add watchdog_exclude sysctl to assist nohz Chris Metcalf
2015-04-08 22:31                                   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-03-31 10:17 ` [PATCH] watchdog: nohz: don't run watchdog on nohz_full cores Christoph Lameter
2015-03-31 18:39   ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-02 14:13     ` Christoph Lameter

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