From: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Austin S Hemmelgarn <ahferroin7@gmail.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Tom Gundersen <teg@jklm.no>, Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Daniel Mack <daniel@zonque.org>,
David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@gmail.com>,
Djalal Harouni <tixxdz@opendz.org>
Subject: Re: Issues with capability bits and meta-data in kdbus
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 15:07:39 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150422130739.GA29286@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <553788A9.6090006@gmail.com>
On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 07:40:25AM -0400, Austin S Hemmelgarn wrote:
> On 2015-04-21 22:32, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> >On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 6:54 PM, Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>If kdbus were a general purpose IPC tool
> >
> > .. but it's not ..
> >
>
> Except, IIRC, that was one of the stated design goals in the original patch
> set. I'm pretty sure that i remember a rather verbose exposition that
> pretty much could be summarized as "Linux has no general purpose IPC in the
> kernel, this fixes that"
Did I say that somewhere? Here's what the patchset has always started
with every time I have posted it for review, starting back last year in
October:
kdbus is a kernel-level IPC implementation that aims for
resemblance to the the protocol layer with the existing
userspace D-Bus daemon while enabling some features that
couldn't be implemented before in userspace.
2+ years ago, I had the dream that maybe we could make kdbus into the
"general purpose IPC layer for the kernel", but in working through all
of the issues, and the requirements of the userspace users and
protocols, it just really didn't work out that way, sorry.
I know some people would like such a "general purpose IPC", but perhaps
because no one has ever done it, maybe it either can't be done, or that
no one really wants such a thing. :)
thanks,
greg k-h
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2015-04-13 19:03 [GIT PULL] kdbus for 4.1-rc1 Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-13 19:29 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-04-13 19:42 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-13 19:49 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-04-13 19:54 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-13 19:57 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-04-13 20:03 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-13 20:08 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-04-13 20:22 ` Al Viro
2015-04-13 20:37 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 1:36 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-15 6:54 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-04-15 7:31 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-04-15 14:48 ` Michal Schmidt
2015-04-15 15:34 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-04-15 16:42 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-04-17 16:53 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-04-15 8:48 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 9:00 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-04-15 9:20 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 9:21 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-04-15 9:27 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 9:30 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-04-15 9:49 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 9:53 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-04-15 9:44 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-04-15 11:40 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 13:03 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-04-15 15:41 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-04-15 16:40 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 16:48 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-04-15 17:33 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 18:06 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-04-16 8:43 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-04-15 17:20 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-04-15 17:41 ` Havoc Pennington
2015-04-15 17:55 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 21:55 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2015-04-15 18:12 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 19:04 ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-04-15 9:28 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-04-15 11:25 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2015-04-15 13:20 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-04-15 15:45 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-04-15 15:46 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-15 16:35 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 17:06 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-04-15 17:31 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 18:04 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-04-15 21:56 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2015-04-15 22:11 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-15 22:18 ` Al Viro
2015-04-15 22:28 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-15 22:48 ` Al Viro
2015-04-15 22:54 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-15 23:27 ` Al Viro
2015-04-16 0:47 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-16 1:04 ` Al Viro
2015-04-16 5:53 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-15 22:56 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-04-16 10:31 ` Daniel Mack
2015-04-16 12:02 ` Tom Gundersen
2015-04-16 12:15 ` Olaf Hering
2015-04-16 12:43 ` Harald Hoyer
2015-04-21 16:36 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-04-21 19:38 ` Matthew Garrett
2015-04-21 19:55 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-04-15 8:18 ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-04-15 8:32 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 8:52 ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-04-15 9:02 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 9:28 ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-04-15 11:52 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 8:29 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-14 0:19 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-04-14 0:34 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-14 17:55 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-21 21:06 ` Issues with capability bits and meta-data in kdbus Eric W. Biederman
2015-04-22 1:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-22 1:54 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-22 2:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-22 3:19 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-22 13:46 ` David Herrmann
2015-04-22 11:40 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-04-22 13:07 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman [this message]
2015-04-22 14:05 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-04-22 13:27 ` Havoc Pennington
2015-04-22 14:35 ` Michele Curti
2015-04-22 20:02 ` Havoc Pennington
2015-04-22 21:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-23 5:35 ` Havoc Pennington
2015-04-24 14:32 ` Olaf Hering
2015-04-24 14:39 ` Michele Curti
2015-04-24 15:02 ` Olaf Hering
2015-04-24 15:14 ` Michele Curti
2015-04-24 14:41 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-04-24 15:04 ` Olaf Hering
2015-04-24 17:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-24 18:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-23 8:38 ` Michele Curti
2015-04-22 10:45 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2015-04-22 11:41 ` David Herrmann
2015-04-22 8:58 ` [GIT PULL] kdbus for 4.1-rc1 Borislav Petkov
2015-04-23 19:14 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-23 20:56 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-04-23 21:22 ` David Herrmann
2015-04-23 21:33 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-04-24 14:02 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-04-23 21:41 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-04-24 5:02 ` Steven Noonan
2015-04-24 9:04 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-04-24 10:28 ` Daniel Mack
2015-04-24 10:50 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-04-24 11:26 ` Daniel Mack
2015-04-24 6:36 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-24 6:45 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-24 7:27 ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-04-24 8:35 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-13 20:13 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-13 20:45 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-13 21:01 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-14 17:50 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-14 18:57 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-14 19:23 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-14 19:24 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-04-14 19:32 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-14 19:40 ` Al Viro
2015-04-14 19:48 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-14 19:53 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-04-15 8:44 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 8:54 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-04-15 9:09 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 12:36 ` Al Viro
2015-04-15 13:13 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 16:47 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-04-15 9:35 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-04-15 11:45 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-14 20:11 ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-04-14 22:39 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-04-15 8:38 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 10:37 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2015-04-15 11:49 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 12:03 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2015-04-15 12:41 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 14:06 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2015-04-15 16:27 ` Havoc Pennington
2015-04-15 12:55 ` Al Viro
2015-04-15 17:33 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-04-15 18:11 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-14 19:35 ` Al Viro
2015-04-14 19:43 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 17:59 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-04-15 18:04 ` Rik van Riel
2015-04-15 22:22 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2015-04-16 16:02 ` Havoc Pennington
2015-04-16 17:31 ` David Herrmann
2015-04-16 20:55 ` Al Viro
2015-04-18 11:44 ` David Herrmann
2015-04-16 16:37 ` Robert Schwebel
2015-04-17 13:45 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-21 16:54 ` Diego Viola
2015-04-21 17:06 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-21 17:25 ` Diego Viola
2015-04-14 20:14 ` John Stoffel
2015-04-14 21:51 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-04-14 22:05 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-04-15 6:56 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-04-15 8:37 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 18:12 ` James Bottomley
2015-04-16 12:13 ` David Herrmann
2015-04-17 19:27 ` James Bottomley
2015-04-17 20:27 ` Havoc Pennington
2015-04-17 21:45 ` Alex Elsayed
2015-04-20 18:01 ` James Bottomley
2015-04-21 8:09 ` Daniel Mack
2015-04-21 18:25 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-15 8:35 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 12:00 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 12:09 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-04-15 12:18 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2015-04-15 12:30 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 12:27 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-14 22:33 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-04-15 8:56 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-15 11:06 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2015-04-15 16:00 ` Rik van Riel
2015-04-15 16:44 ` Havoc Pennington
2015-04-15 18:16 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-04-15 18:40 ` Havoc Pennington
2015-04-15 20:22 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-15 20:41 ` Al Viro
2015-04-15 21:07 ` Rik van Riel
2015-04-16 18:03 ` Djalal Harouni
2015-04-15 21:58 ` Havoc Pennington
2015-04-16 13:13 ` Tom Gundersen
2015-04-16 14:34 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-16 15:01 ` David Herrmann
2015-04-16 17:04 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-17 9:19 ` Michal Hocko
2015-04-17 18:54 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-20 12:43 ` Michal Hocko
2015-04-20 20:03 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-16 19:01 ` Havoc Pennington
2015-04-17 13:23 ` Daniel Mack
2015-04-17 14:54 ` Havoc Pennington
2015-04-15 22:08 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2015-04-16 13:14 ` Daniel Mack
2015-04-16 17:15 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2015-04-23 13:05 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-23 13:06 ` [PATCH] kdbus: pool: use __vfs_read() Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-23 14:17 ` [GIT PULL] kdbus for 4.1-rc1 One Thousand Gnomes
2015-04-23 16:36 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-23 16:46 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-23 17:16 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-23 17:34 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-23 17:42 ` Stephen Smalley
2015-04-23 19:30 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-24 2:08 ` Karol Lewandowski
2015-04-29 21:16 ` Paul Moore
2015-04-23 17:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-23 18:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-23 18:56 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-23 19:22 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-23 19:33 ` Greg KH
2015-04-23 20:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-23 20:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-23 18:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-24 13:50 ` Lukasz Skalski
2015-04-24 14:19 ` Havoc Pennington
2015-04-24 14:34 ` Lukasz Skalski
2015-04-24 19:25 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-27 8:57 ` Lukasz Skalski
2015-04-27 17:18 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-27 22:29 ` David Lang
2015-04-28 10:53 ` Lukasz Skalski
2015-04-27 21:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-27 21:40 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-27 22:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-27 22:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-28 13:44 ` Havoc Pennington
2015-04-28 14:48 ` Havoc Pennington
2015-04-28 17:18 ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-04-28 20:25 ` Havoc Pennington
2015-04-28 23:12 ` John Stoffel
2015-04-29 0:45 ` Havoc Pennington
2015-04-29 11:33 ` Harald Hoyer
2015-04-29 12:47 ` Harald Hoyer
2015-04-29 13:33 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-04-29 13:38 ` Harald Hoyer
2015-04-29 13:46 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-04-29 14:01 ` Harald Hoyer
2015-04-29 14:04 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-04-29 14:11 ` Harald Hoyer
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2015-04-29 14:53 ` Harald Hoyer
2015-04-29 14:58 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-04-29 15:03 ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-04-29 15:21 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-04-30 9:05 ` Łukasz Stelmach
2015-04-30 9:12 ` Richard Weinberger
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2015-04-30 10:40 ` Richard Weinberger
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2015-04-30 12:40 ` Łukasz Stelmach
2015-04-30 12:45 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-04-30 14:52 ` Łukasz Stelmach
2015-04-30 15:05 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-07-03 9:13 ` cee1
2015-04-29 16:25 ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-04-29 14:46 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-04-29 14:51 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-04-29 15:07 ` Harald Hoyer
2015-04-29 15:17 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-04-29 15:22 ` Harald Hoyer
2015-04-29 15:41 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-04-29 18:28 ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-04-29 16:26 ` John Stoffel
2015-04-29 17:39 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-04-29 19:10 ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-04-29 19:28 ` John Stoffel
2015-04-29 22:49 ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-04-30 0:05 ` David Lang
2015-04-30 0:15 ` Dave Airlie
2015-04-30 0:18 ` David Lang
2015-04-30 1:20 ` Dave Airlie
2015-04-29 13:35 ` Stephen Smalley
2015-04-29 15:18 ` Simon McVittie
2015-04-29 17:48 ` Stephen Smalley
2015-04-29 15:27 ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-04-29 16:36 ` David Lang
2015-04-29 18:54 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-29 19:30 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-04-29 19:42 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-29 20:15 ` David Lang
2015-04-29 20:24 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-29 20:43 ` David Lang
2015-04-29 20:51 ` David Herrmann
2015-04-30 1:42 ` John Stoffel
2015-04-29 22:34 ` John Stoffel
2015-04-30 20:14 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-01 15:49 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-04-28 17:19 ` David Lang
2015-04-28 19:19 ` Havoc Pennington
2015-04-28 20:34 ` David Lang
2015-04-28 20:42 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-28 20:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-06-22 17:33 ` Jindrich Makovicka
2015-06-22 20:23 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-06-22 21:24 ` Jindřich Makovička
2015-07-07 21:40 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2015-04-28 12:49 ` Havoc Pennington
2015-04-28 10:39 ` Lukasz Skalski
2015-04-23 18:33 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-04-23 19:01 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-04-23 18:57 ` Kdbus needs meaningful review (was: Re: [GIT PULL] kdbus for 4.1-rc1) Eric W. Biederman
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