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From: Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@ubuntu.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>,
	"Ted Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	"Andrew G. Morgan" <morgan@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	Austin S Hemmelgarn <ahferroin7@gmail.com>,
	linux-security-module <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
	Aaron Jones <aaronmdjones@gmail.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@canonical.com>,
	Markku Savela <msa@moth.iki.fi>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
Subject: Re: [RFC] capabilities: Ambient capabilities
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2015 02:45:36 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150425024536.GA23915@ubuntumail> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrUdNp18ZeOC8pRYn_YPUp8nFyH7aS+dFoBf34XNmER-nA@mail.gmail.com>

Quoting Andy Lutomirski (luto@amacapital.net):
> On Apr 24, 2015 2:15 PM, "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 01:18:44PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> > > On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com> wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 24 Apr 2015, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> That's sort of what my patch does -- you need CAP_SETPCAP to switch
> > > >> the securebit.
> > > >>
> > > >> But Christoph's patch required it to add caps to the ambient set, right?
> > > >
> > > > Yes but you seem to be just adding one additional step without too much of
> > > > a benefit because you still need CAP_SETPCAP.
> > > >
> > >
> > > No, because I set the default to on :)
> >
> > Right - I definately prefer
> >
> > . default off
> > . CAP_SETPCAP required to turn it on (for self and children)
> > . once on, anyone can copy bits from (whatever we decided) to pA.
> >
> 
> Why default off?  If there's some weird reason that switching it on
> could cause a security problem, then I'd agree, but I haven't spotted
> a reason yet.

Cause it's less scary?

I'll just wait for the new patchset :)

  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-25  2:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-12 18:08 [RFC] capabilities: Ambient capabilities Andy Lutomirski
2015-03-12 21:49 ` Kees Cook
2015-03-12 22:10   ` Andrew G. Morgan
2015-03-12 22:27     ` Andrew Lutomirski
2015-03-13 13:24       ` Andrew G. Morgan
2015-03-13 16:06         ` Christoph Lameter
2015-03-13 17:58           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-03-13 18:52             ` Christoph Lameter
2015-03-13 17:57         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-03-13 18:52           ` Kees Cook
2015-03-13 19:03             ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-03-13 19:54               ` Kees Cook
2015-03-14 21:09           ` Andrew G. Morgan
2015-03-14 21:45             ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-03-14 22:17               ` Andrew G. Morgan
2015-03-14 22:53                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-03-14 22:55                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-03-15  0:04                   ` Andrew G. Morgan
2015-03-30 12:55                     ` Christoph Lameter
2015-03-30 14:31                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-03-30 15:05                         ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-09 15:25                         ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-23 14:01                           ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-24 17:53                             ` Serge Hallyn
2015-04-24 18:41                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-24 19:09                                 ` Serge Hallyn
2015-04-24 19:25                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-24 19:53                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-24 20:13                                     ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-24 20:18                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-24 21:15                                         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-04-24 22:55                                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-25  2:45                                             ` Serge Hallyn [this message]
2015-04-27 14:55                                         ` Christoph Lameter

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