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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@ezchip.com>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Kirill Tkhai <ktkhai@parallels.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] [PATCH] sched: Add smp_rmb() in task rq locking cycles
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 20:24:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150428182410.GM5029@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <553FCAD0.9090403@ezchip.com>

On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 02:00:48PM -0400, Chris Metcalf wrote:
> Yes, tilepro can do 16-bit atomic load/stores.  The reason we didn't use
> your approach (basically having tns provide locking for the head/tail)
> is just a perceived efficiency gain from rolling the tns lock into the head.
> 
> The current tilepro arch_spin_lock() is just three mesh network transactions
> (tns, store, load).  Your proposed spin lock is five (tns, load, store,
> store, load).
> Or, looking it from a core-centric perspective, the current arch_spin_lock()
> only has to wait on requests from the mesh network twice (tns, load),
> basically
> once for each member of the lock structure; your proposed version is three
> (tns, load, load).
> 
> I don't honestly know how critical this difference is, but that's why I
> designed it the way I did.

Makes sense. Good reason ;-)

> I think your goal with your proposed redesign is being able to atomically
> read head and tail together for arch_spin_unlock_wait(), but I don't see
> why that's better than just reading head, checking it's not equal to tail
> with a separate read, then spinning waiting for head to change.

Right, that should be perfectly fine indeed.

A few questions:

> >static inline void arch_spin_lock(arch_spinlock_t *lock)
> >{
> >	unsigned short head, tail;
> >
> >	___tns_lock(&lock->lock); /* XXX does the TNS imply a ___sync?  */

Does it? Something needs to provide the ACQUIRE semantics.

> >	head = lock->head;
> >	lock->head++;
> >	___tns_unlock(&lock->lock);
> >
> >	while (READ_ONCE(lock->tail) != head)
> >		cpu_relax();
> >}
> >
> >static inline void arch_spin_unlock(arch_spinlock_t *lock)
> >{
> >	/*
> >	 * can do with regular load/store because the lock owner
> >	 * is the only one going to do stores to the tail
> >	 */
> >	unsigned short tail = READ_ONCE(lock->tail);
> >	smp_mb(); /* MB is stronger than RELEASE */

Note that your code uses wmb(), wmb is strictly speaking not correct,
as its weaker than RELEASE.

_However_ it doesn't make any practical difference since all three
barriers end up emitting __sync() so its not a bug per se.

> >	WRITE_ONCE(lock->tail, tail + 1);
> >}

  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-28 18:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20150217104516.12144.85911.stgit@tkhai>
2015-02-17 10:47 ` [PATCH 2/2] [PATCH] sched: Add smp_rmb() in task rq locking cycles Kirill Tkhai
2015-02-17 12:12   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-17 12:36     ` Kirill Tkhai
2015-02-17 12:45       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-17 13:05     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-17 16:05       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-17 18:01         ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-17 18:23           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-17 21:45             ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-18 13:41               ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-17 18:36         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-17 21:52           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-18 13:47             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-18 18:43               ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-18 15:53             ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-18 16:11               ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-18 16:32                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-18 19:23                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-18 15:59             ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-18 19:14               ` Manfred Spraul
2015-02-18 22:43                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-19 14:19                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-20 18:28                     ` Manfred Spraul
2015-02-20 18:45                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-20 20:23                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-21 12:54                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-25 19:56                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-26 10:52                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-28 14:33                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-28 15:53                               ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-28 16:24                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-28 16:44                                   ` [PATCH] spinlock: clarify doc for raw_spin_unlock_wait() Chris Metcalf
2015-04-29 17:34                                     ` Manfred Spraul
2015-04-28 17:33                                   ` [PATCH 1/2] tile: modify arch_spin_unlock_wait() semantics Chris Metcalf
2015-04-28 17:33                                     ` [PATCH 2/2] tile: use READ_ONCE() in arch_spin_is_locked() Chris Metcalf
2015-04-28 16:40                                 ` [PATCH 2/2] [PATCH] sched: Add smp_rmb() in task rq locking cycles Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-28 16:58                                   ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-28 17:43                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-28 18:00                                       ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-28 18:24                                         ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2015-04-28 18:38                                           ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-28 14:32                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-28 20:33                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-21  3:26                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-23 18:29                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-18 17:05     ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Clarify ordering between task_rq_lock() and move_queued_task() tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra

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