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From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@ezchip.com>,
	Fabian Frederick <fabf@skynet.be>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	Rickard Strandqvist <rickard_strandqvist@spectrumdigital.se>
Subject: Re: revert "fs/befs/linuxvfs.c: replace strncpy by strlcpy"
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 01:35:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150429003514.GL889@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFwbRZe5gVsTyHvjKqE5eA3zQ_58_UQW7KACCt7V7FpZbQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 02:48:45PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:

> I suspect you could take that lib/strncpy_from_user.c and massage it
> reasonably trivially to be a good function.
> 
> That said, I can't think of a single strncpy (or strlcpy) in kernel
> space that is actually worth even optimizing for. They just don't tend
> to be in the critical path. So correctness is likely *much* more
> important than worrying about performance.

Indeed.  As it is, I suspect that strlcpy() use should be uniformly
discouraged; if nothing else, snprintf() gives the same semantics,
is less likely to cause confusion regardling the expected return
value and none of those paths are performance-critical.

strncpy() has another use, though, and it can't be replaced by strlcpy() -
see the commits that had started this thread.  IMO they (and anything
else of the same nature) really need to be reverted; using strlcpy() on
something that isn't guaranteed to be NUL-terminated is a serious bug.

And catching all such places is going to be quite a work - there are too
many strlcpy() callers out there.

Frankly, looking through call sites in fs...
* two callers in fs/9p - strlcpy() + sscanf(), both should've been
plain sscanf() (and the second should've been "HARDLINKCOUNT%u" instead
of "%13s %u" + comparison of string with "HARDLINKCOUNT" - sscanf() is
quite capable of matching explicit string literals)
* affs one: match_strdup + strlcpy + kfree.  Should just use match_strlcpy
instead (BTW, despite the name, it does *not* use strclpy() internally).
* afs: might be correct.
* two in befs: both broken.
* binfmt_misc: fishy; load_misc_binary() finds an object under rwlock, copies
one of its fields (->interpreter), drops rwlock and proceeds to do various
blocking operations (including open_exec()).  Using another field of the
same object (->interp_flags) all along.  If it gets freed and reused, well...
let's hope we won't fuck up too badly.  IMO we'd be better off if we added
a refcount to that sucker and used it to control the freeing.
* btrfs: undefined behaviour - potentially overlapping source and destination.
* another btrfs one:
                char b[BDEVNAME_SIZE];
                strlcpy(s->s_id, bdevname(bdev, b), sizeof(s->s_id));
complete garbage; might as well do bdevname(bdev, s->s_id) and be done with
that.

... and so on; this stuff is misused more often than not.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-29  0:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-28  3:48 revert "fs/befs/linuxvfs.c: replace strncpy by strlcpy" Al Viro
2015-04-28  5:35 ` Fabian Frederick
2015-04-28 16:05   ` Al Viro
2015-04-28 16:42     ` Fabian Frederick
2015-04-28 17:39       ` Al Viro
2015-04-28 20:16         ` Fabian Frederick
2015-04-28 16:42     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-28 19:48       ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-28 20:51         ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-28 21:38           ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-28 21:48             ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-29  0:35               ` Al Viro [this message]
2015-04-29  8:24                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-04-30 16:01               ` [PATCH 0/3] add new strscpy() API for string copy Chris Metcalf
2015-04-30 16:01                 ` [PATCH 1/3] Make asm/word-at-a-time.h available on all architectures Chris Metcalf
2015-04-30 16:01                 ` [PATCH 2/3] string: provide strscpy() and strscpy_truncate() Chris Metcalf
2015-05-06 15:01                   ` Dan Carpenter
2015-05-06 15:21                     ` Chris Metcalf
2015-05-06 15:59                       ` Dan Carpenter
2015-05-06 16:45                         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-05-07  9:00                           ` Dan Carpenter
2015-05-07 15:10                             ` Chris Metcalf
2015-04-30 16:01                 ` [PATCH 3/3] tile: use global strscpy() rather than private copy Chris Metcalf
2015-05-11 15:37                 ` [PATCH 0/3] add new strscpy() API for string copy Chris Metcalf
2015-05-14 23:10                 ` Michael Ellerman
2015-05-15 15:15                   ` Chris Metcalf
2015-05-18  1:13                     ` Michael Ellerman
2015-05-26 19:33                       ` Chris Metcalf
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-06-30 18:01 [GIT PULL] strscpy string copy function Chris Metcalf
2015-07-01 16:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-07-08 20:20   ` [PATCH v2 0/3] add new strscpy() API for string copy Chris Metcalf
2015-07-08 20:20     ` [PATCH v2 1/3] Make asm/word-at-a-time.h available on all architectures Chris Metcalf
2015-07-08 20:20     ` [PATCH v2 2/3] string: provide strscpy() Chris Metcalf
2015-07-08 20:54       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-07-08 20:20     ` [PATCH v2 3/3] tile: use global strscpy() rather than private copy Chris Metcalf

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