From: Zhuang Jin Can <jin.can.zhuang@intel.com>
To: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com, stern@rowland.harvard.edu,
dan.j.williams@intel.com, pmladek@suse.cz,
peter.chen@freescale.com, jwerner@chromium.org,
linux-api@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-usb@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] usb: core: add usb3 lpm sysfs
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 15:20:04 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150429072004.GA20961@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150428211110.GA32383@kroah.com>
On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:11:10PM +0200, Greg KH wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:51:27AM +0800, Zhuang Jin Can wrote:
> > Hi Greg KH,
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 12:42:24PM +0200, Greg KH wrote:
> > > On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 11:46:12AM +0800, Zhuang Jin Can wrote:
> > > > Some usb3 devices may not support usb3 lpm well.
> > > > The patch adds a sysfs to enable/disable u1 or u2 of the port.The
> > > > settings apply to both before and after device enumeration.
> > > > Supported values are "0" - u1 and u2 are disabled, "u1" - only u1 is
> > > > enabled, "u2" - only u2 is enabled, "u1_u2" - u1 and u2 are enabled.
> > > >
> > > > The interface is useful for testing some USB3 devices during
> > > > development, and provides a way to disable usb3 lpm if the issues can
> > > > not be fixed in final products.
> > >
> > > How is a user supposed to "know" to make this setting for a device? Why
> > > can't the kernel automatically set this value properly? Why does it
> > > need to be a kernel issue at all?
> > >
> > By default kernel enables u1 u2 of all USB3 devices. This interface
> > provides the user to change this policy. User may set the policy
> > according to PID/VID of uevent or according to the platform information
> > known by userspace.
>
> And why would they ever want to do that?
>
> > It's not a kernel issue, as u1 u2 is mandatory by USB3 compliance. But
> > for some internal hardwired USB3 connection, e.g. SSIC, passing USB3
> > compliance is not mandatory. So the interface provides a way for vendor
> > to ship with u1 or u2 broken products. Of course, this is not encouraged :).
>
> If the state is broken for those devices, we can't require the user to
> fix it for us, the kernel should do it automatically.
>
> > > And when you are doing development of broken devices, the kernel doesn't
> > > have to support you, you can run with debugging patches of your own
> > > until you fix your firmware :)
> > >
> > Understood. But I think other vendor or developer may face the same
> > issue in final product shipment or during development. Moreover, the
> > interface provide the flexibility for developer to separately
> > disable/enable u1 or u2, e.g. If they're debugging an u2 issue, they
> > can disable u1 to simplify the situtation.
>
> For debugging only, perhaps, but for a "normal" user, please let's
> handle this automatically and don't create a switch that never gets used
> by anyone or anything.
>
Thanks Greg. Since so far the patch has no interesting value to the
community, I'll drop the patch.
Regards
Jincan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-04-29 7:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-04-19 3:46 [PATCH] usb: core: add usb3 lpm sysfs Zhuang Jin Can
2015-04-22 9:21 ` Zhuang Jin Can
2015-04-28 10:42 ` Greg KH
2015-04-28 16:51 ` Zhuang Jin Can
2015-04-28 21:11 ` Greg KH
2015-04-29 7:20 ` Zhuang Jin Can [this message]
2015-04-29 9:01 ` Greg KH
2015-04-29 10:57 ` Zhuang Jin Can
2015-04-29 11:06 ` Greg KH
2015-04-29 16:21 ` Zhuang Jin Can
2015-04-29 19:57 ` Greg KH
2015-04-30 8:49 ` Zhuang Jin Can
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