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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo2.kernel.org@gmail.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, Fenghua Yu <fenghua.yu@intel.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 084/208] x86/fpu: Rename xsave.header::xstate_bv to 'xfeatures'
Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 08:16:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150506061603.GA13720@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55490B1F.3080409@linux.intel.com>


* Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com> wrote:

> On 05/05/2015 11:16 AM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > We could put the SDM name into a comment, next to the field 
> > definition? Something like, if 'xfeatures' is too long:
> > 
> > struct xstate_header {
> >         u64     xfeat;        /* xstate components,           SDM: XSTATE_BV */
> >         u64     xfeat_comp;   /* compacted xstate components, SDM: XCOMP_BV */
> >         u64     reserved[6];
> > } __attribute__((packed));
> 
> When you're in the depths of the SDM and the kernel code, the fewer 
> context switches you have to make, the better. [...]

But that's not the only consideration. While in general I'm all for 
following reference hardware documentation with names, there's a limit 
for how far we'll go in following stupid vendor names, and I think 
'XSTATE_BV' and 'XCOMP_BV' are well beyond any sane limit (see further 
below my suggestion for better naming).

> [...]  I say this from the perspective of someone who's had a copy 
> of the SDM open to xsave* for about a month straight.

If only one of us worked at the company that invented those 
nonsensical names and complex SDMs, and could complain to them? ;-)

> In any case, having "xfeat" and "xfeat_comp" is a bad idea.  They're 
> not really related concepts other than their bits refer to the same 
> states.  They should not have such similar names.

Agreed.

> XSTATE_BV is the set of states written to the xsave area.
> 
> XCOMP_BV is essentially always XCR0 (aka pcntxt_mask, aka 
> xfeatures_mask) or'd with bit 63.

So how about this naming:

	/*
	 * Mask of xstate components currently not in init state, 
	 * typically written to by XSAVE*.
	 */
	u64 xfeat_mask_used; /* SDM: XSTATE_BV */

	/*
	 * Mask of all state components saved/restored, plus the 
	 * compaction flag. (Note that the XRSTORS instruction caches
	 * this value, and the next SAVES done for this same
	 * area expects it to match, before it can perform the 'were
	 * these registers modified' hardware optimization.)
	 */
	u64 xfeat_mask_all; /* SDM: XCOMP_BV */

(Note that I kept the SDM name easily greppable.)

The 'compaction' aspect of 'xfeat_mask_all' is just an additional 
quirk that does not deserve to be represented in the primary naming: 
bit 63 of 'xfeat_mask_all' is set to 1 if the format is compacted: 
basically 'compaction' can be thought of as an additional, special 
'xfeature' that modifies the offsets in the save area to eliminate 
holes. [*]

Basically this naming tells us the biggest, most relevant 
differentiation between these two fields:

 - the 'xfeat_mask_used' field reflects the current, momentary,
   optimized state of the area. This mask is content dependent,
   and it is a subset of:

 - the 'xfeat_mask_all' field which reflects all states supported by
   that fpstate context. This mask is content independent.

The compaction aspect of 'xfeat_mask_all' is obviously important to 
the hardware (and depending on its value the position of various 
registers in the save area are different), but secondary to the big 
picture.

Note that once you have a good name, a lot of code becomes a lot more 
obvious - and I wish Intel did more than just googling for the first 
available historic QuickBASIC variable name when picking new CPU 
symbols.

Thanks,

	Ingo

[*]

Btw., does Intel have any special plans with xstate compaction?

AFAICS in Linux we just want to enable xfeat_mask_all to the max, 
including compaction, and never really modify it (in the task's 
lifetime).

I'm also wondering whether there will be any real 'holes' in the 
xfeatures capability masks of future CPUs: right now xfeatures tend to 
be already 'compacted' (because new CPUs tend to support all 
xfeatures), so compaction mostly appears to be an academic feature. Or 
is there already hardware out there where it matter?

Maybe once we get AVX512 in addition to MPX we can use compaction 
materially: as there will be lots of tasks without MPX state but with 
AVX512 state - in fact I suspect that will be the common case.

OTOH MPX state is relatively small compared to AVX and AVX512 state, 
so skipping the hole won't buy us much, and the question is, how 
expensive is compaction, will save/restore be slower with compaction 
enabled? Has to be measured I suspect.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-05-06  6:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-05 17:49 [PATCH 000/208] big x86 FPU code rewrite Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:49 ` [PATCH 080/208] x86/fpu: Rename 'xstate_features' to 'xfeatures_nr' Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:49 ` [PATCH 081/208] x86/fpu: Move XCR0 manipulation to the FPU code proper Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:49 ` [PATCH 082/208] x86/fpu: Clean up regset functions Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:49 ` [PATCH 083/208] x86/fpu: Rename 'xsave_hdr' to 'header' Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:49 ` [PATCH 084/208] x86/fpu: Rename xsave.header::xstate_bv to 'xfeatures' Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:57   ` Dave Hansen
2015-05-05 18:16     ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 18:25       ` Dave Hansen
2015-05-06  6:16         ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2015-05-06 12:46           ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-06 15:09             ` Dave Hansen
2015-05-07 11:46               ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-06 18:27           ` Dave Hansen
2015-05-07 10:59             ` Borislav Petkov
2015-05-07 12:22             ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-07 14:58               ` Dave Hansen
2015-05-07 15:33                 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-07 15:58                   ` Dave Hansen
2015-05-07 19:35                     ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:49 ` [PATCH 085/208] x86/fpu: Clean up and fix MXCSR handling Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:49 ` [PATCH 086/208] x86/fpu: Rename regset FPU register accessors Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:49 ` [PATCH 087/208] x86/fpu: Explain the AVX register layout in the xsave area Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:49 ` [PATCH 088/208] x86/fpu: Improve the __sanitize_i387_state() documentation Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:49 ` [PATCH 089/208] x86/fpu: Rename fpu->has_fpu to fpu->fpregs_active Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:49 ` [PATCH 090/208] x86/fpu: Rename __thread_set_has_fpu() to __fpregs_activate() Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:49 ` [PATCH 091/208] x86/fpu: Rename __thread_clear_has_fpu() to __fpregs_deactivate() Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:49 ` [PATCH 092/208] x86/fpu: Rename __thread_fpu_begin() to fpregs_activate() Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:49 ` [PATCH 093/208] x86/fpu: Rename __thread_fpu_end() to fpregs_deactivate() Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:49 ` [PATCH 094/208] x86/fpu: Remove fpstate_xstate_init_size() boot quirk Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:49 ` [PATCH 095/208] x86/fpu: Remove xsave_init() bootmem allocations Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:49 ` [PATCH 096/208] x86/fpu: Make setup_init_fpu_buf() run-once explicitly Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:49 ` [PATCH 097/208] x86/fpu: Remove 'init_xstate_buf' bootmem allocation Ingo Molnar
2015-07-14 19:46   ` 4.2-rc2: early boot memory corruption from FPU rework Dave Hansen
2015-07-15  1:25     ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-07-15 11:07     ` Ingo Molnar
2015-07-16  0:34       ` [REGRESSION] " Dave Hansen
2015-07-16  2:39         ` Linus Torvalds
2015-07-16  2:51         ` Linus Torvalds
2015-07-17  7:45         ` Ingo Molnar
2015-07-17  8:51           ` Ingo Molnar
2015-07-17 16:58           ` Dave Hansen
2015-07-17 19:32             ` Ingo Molnar
2015-07-17 20:01               ` Dave Hansen
2015-05-05 17:49 ` [PATCH 098/208] x86/fpu: Split fpu__cpu_init() into early-boot and cpu-boot parts Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:49 ` [PATCH 099/208] x86/fpu: Make the system/cpu init distinction clear in the xstate code as well Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:49 ` [PATCH 100/208] x86/fpu: Move CPU capability check into fpu__init_cpu_xstate() Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:49 ` [PATCH 101/208] x86/fpu: Move legacy check to fpu__init_system_xstate() Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:49 ` [PATCH 102/208] x86/fpu: Propagate once per boot quirk into fpu__init_system_xstate() Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:49 ` [PATCH 103/208] x86/fpu: Remove xsave_init() Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:49 ` [PATCH 104/208] x86/fpu: Do fpu__init_system_xstate only from fpu__init_system() Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:49 ` [PATCH 105/208] x86/fpu: Set up the legacy FPU init image " Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:49 ` [PATCH 106/208] x86/fpu: Remove setup_init_fpu_buf() call from eager_fpu_init() Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:49 ` [PATCH 107/208] x86/fpu: Move all eager-fpu setup code to eager_fpu_init() Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 108/208] x86/fpu: Move eager_fpu_init() to fpu/init.c Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 109/208] x86/fpu: Clean up eager_fpu_init() and rename it to fpu__ctx_switch_init() Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 110/208] x86/fpu: Split fpu__ctx_switch_init() into _cpu() and _system() portions Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 111/208] x86/fpu: Do CLTS fpu__init_system() Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 112/208] x86/fpu: Move the fpstate_xstate_init_size() call into fpu__init_system() Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 113/208] x86/fpu: Call fpu__init_cpu_ctx_switch() from fpu__init_cpu() Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 114/208] x86/fpu: Do system-wide setup from fpu__detect() Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 115/208] x86/fpu: Remove fpu__init_cpu_ctx_switch() call from fpu__init_system() Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 116/208] x86/fpu: Simplify fpu__cpu_init() Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 117/208] x86/fpu: Factor out fpu__init_cpu_generic() Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 118/208] x86/fpu: Factor out fpu__init_system_generic() Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 119/208] x86/fpu: Factor out fpu__init_system_early_generic() Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 120/208] x86/fpu: Move !FPU check ingo fpu__init_system_early_generic() Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 121/208] x86/fpu: Factor out FPU bug checks into fpu/bugs.c Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 122/208] x86/fpu: Make check_fpu() init ordering independent Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 123/208] x86/fpu: Move fpu__init_system_early_generic() out of fpu__detect() Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 124/208] x86/fpu: Remove the extra fpu__detect() layer Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 125/208] x86/fpu: Rename fpstate_xstate_init_size() to fpu__init_system_xstate_size_legacy() Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 126/208] x86/fpu: Reorder init methods Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 127/208] x86/fpu: Add more comments to the FPU init code Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 128/208] x86/fpu: Move fpu__save() to fpu/internals.h Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 129/208] x86/fpu: Uninline kernel_fpu_begin()/end() Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 130/208] x86/fpu: Move various internal function prototypes to fpu/internal.h Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 131/208] x86/fpu: Uninline the irq_ts_save()/restore() functions Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 132/208] x86/fpu: Rename fpu_save_init() to copy_fpregs_to_fpstate() Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 133/208] x86/fpu: Optimize copy_fpregs_to_fpstate() by removing the FNCLEX synchronization with FP exceptions Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 134/208] x86/fpu: Simplify FPU handling by embedding the fpstate in task_struct (again) Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 135/208] x86/fpu: Remove failure paths from fpstate-alloc low level functions Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 136/208] x86/fpu: Remove failure return from fpstate_alloc_init() Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 137/208] x86/fpu: Rename fpstate_alloc_init() to fpstate_init_curr() Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 138/208] x86/fpu: Simplify fpu__unlazy_stopped() error handling Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 139/208] x86/fpu, kvm: Simplify fx_init() Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 140/208] x86/fpu: Simplify fpstate_init_curr() usage Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 141/208] x86/fpu: Rename fpu__unlazy_stopped() to fpu__activate_stopped() Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 142/208] x86/fpu: Factor out FPU hw activation/deactivation Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 143/208] x86/fpu: Simplify __save_fpu() Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 144/208] x86/fpu: Eliminate __save_fpu() Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 145/208] x86/fpu: Simplify fpu__save() Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 146/208] x86/fpu: Optimize fpu__save() Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 147/208] x86/fpu: Optimize fpu_copy() Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 148/208] x86/fpu: Optimize fpu_copy() some more on lazy switching systems Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 149/208] x86/fpu: Rename fpu/xsave.h to fpu/xstate.h Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 150/208] x86/fpu: Rename fpu/xsave.c to fpu/xstate.c Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 151/208] x86/fpu: Introduce cpu_has_xfeatures(xfeatures_mask, feature_name) Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 22:15   ` Yu, Fenghua
2015-05-06  5:00     ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 152/208] x86/fpu: Simplify print_xstate_features() Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 153/208] x86/fpu: Enumerate xfeature bits Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 154/208] x86/fpu: Move xfeature type enumeration to fpu/types.h Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 155/208] x86/fpu, crypto x86/camellia_aesni_avx: Simplify the camellia_aesni_init() xfeature checks Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 156/208] x86/fpu, crypto x86/sha256_ssse3: Simplify the sha256_ssse3_mod_init() " Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 157/208] x86/fpu, crypto x86/camellia_aesni_avx2: Simplify the camellia_aesni_init() " Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 158/208] x86/fpu, crypto x86/twofish_avx: Simplify the twofish_init() " Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 159/208] x86/fpu, crypto x86/serpent_avx: Simplify the serpent_init() " Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 160/208] x86/fpu, crypto x86/cast5_avx: Simplify the cast5_init() " Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 161/208] x86/fpu, crypto x86/sha512_ssse3: Simplify the sha512_ssse3_mod_init() " Ingo Molnar
2015-05-05 17:50 ` [PATCH 162/208] x86/fpu, crypto x86/cast6_avx: Simplify the cast6_init() " Ingo Molnar

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