From: Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com>
To: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>,
linux-spi@vger.kernel.org, Martin Sperl <kernel@martin.sperl.org>,
Michal Suchanek <hramrach@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] spi: Force the registration of the spidev devices
Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 19:50:34 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150513175034.GC4004@lukather> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150513153740.GC11677@kroah.com>
[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1727 bytes --]
Hi Greg,
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 08:37:40AM -0700, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 12:26:04PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote:
> > On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 10:33:24PM +0200, Maxime Ripard wrote:
> >
> > > While this is nicer than the DT solution because of its accurate hardware
> > > representation, it's still not perfect because you might not have access to the
> > > DT, or you might be driving a completely generic device (such as a
> > > microcontroller) that might be used for something else in a different
> > > context/board.
> >
> > Greg, you're copied on this because this seems to be a generic problem
> > that should perhaps be solved at a driver model level - having a way to
> > bind userspace access to devices that we don't otherwise have a driver
> > for. The subsystem could specify the UIO driver to use when no other
> > driver is available.
>
> That doesn't really work. I've been talking to the ACPI people about
> this, and the problem is "don't otherwise have a driver for" is an
> impossible thing to prove, as you never know when a driver is going to
> be loaded from userspace.
>
> You can easily bind drivers to devices today from userspace, why not
> just use the built-in functionality you have today if you "know" that
> there is no driver for this hardware.
What we're really after here is that we want to have an spidev
instance when we don't even have a device.
And since SPI isn't really doing any kind of hotplug, the only
situation that might be problematic is if we have the DT overlays
registering new devices.
Maxime
--
Maxime Ripard, Free Electrons
Embedded Linux, Kernel and Android engineering
http://free-electrons.com
[-- Attachment #2: Digital signature --]
[-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 819 bytes --]
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-05-13 17:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-05-12 20:33 [PATCH] spi: Force the registration of the spidev devices Maxime Ripard
2015-05-13 9:34 ` [PATCH] spi: Add option to bind spidev to all chipselects Michal Suchanek
2015-05-13 10:16 ` Maxime Ripard
2015-05-13 10:40 ` Michal Suchanek
2015-05-13 11:05 ` Mark Brown
2015-05-13 11:26 ` [PATCH] spi: Force the registration of the spidev devices Mark Brown
2015-05-13 12:35 ` Michal Suchanek
2015-05-13 12:51 ` Maxime Ripard
2015-05-13 14:36 ` Mark Brown
2015-05-13 15:31 ` Michal Suchanek
2015-05-13 17:43 ` Mark Brown
2015-05-13 19:09 ` Maxime Ripard
2015-05-13 19:10 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-05-13 19:41 ` Maxime Ripard
2015-05-13 15:37 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-05-13 15:52 ` Michal Suchanek
2015-05-13 17:13 ` Mark Brown
2015-05-13 17:20 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-05-13 17:39 ` Mark Brown
2015-05-13 18:16 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-05-13 18:32 ` Mark Brown
2015-05-13 18:36 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-05-13 18:51 ` Mark Brown
2015-05-13 19:17 ` Maxime Ripard
2015-05-13 17:50 ` Maxime Ripard [this message]
2015-05-13 18:12 ` Mark Brown
2015-05-13 18:17 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-05-13 19:23 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-05-13 19:26 ` Maxime Ripard
2015-05-13 22:33 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-05-14 14:34 ` Mark Brown
2015-05-15 8:09 ` Maxime Ripard
2015-07-15 6:27 ` Lucas De Marchi
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-04-28 17:22 Maxime Ripard
2014-04-29 18:37 ` Mark Brown
2014-04-30 18:06 ` Maxime Ripard
2014-05-01 1:18 ` Mark Brown
2014-05-01 22:36 ` Maxime Ripard
2014-05-01 23:28 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-05-02 16:55 ` Mark Brown
2014-05-05 4:17 ` Maxime Ripard
2014-05-05 7:10 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-05-05 13:57 ` Alexandre Belloni
2014-05-05 14:22 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-05-05 19:16 ` Mark Brown
2014-05-02 17:40 ` Mark Brown
2014-05-05 4:21 ` Maxime Ripard
2014-05-05 19:17 ` Mark Brown
2014-05-08 2:22 ` Maxime Ripard
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=20150513175034.GC4004@lukather \
--to=maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com \
--cc=broonie@kernel.org \
--cc=gregkh@linuxfoundation.org \
--cc=hdegoede@redhat.com \
--cc=hramrach@gmail.com \
--cc=kernel@martin.sperl.org \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-spi@vger.kernel.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox