From: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
To: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@plumgrid.com>,
Wang Nan <wangnan0@huawei.com>,
paulus@samba.org, a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl, mingo@redhat.com,
jolsa@kernel.org, dsahern@gmail.com, daniel@iogearbox.net,
brendan.d.gregg@gmail.com, masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com,
lizefan@huawei.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
pi3orama@163.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 00/37] perf tools: introduce 'perf bpf' command to load eBPF programs.
Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 09:30:52 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150520003052.GE22713@sejong> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150519211033.GF19921@kernel.org>
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 06:10:33PM -0300, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:
> Em Tue, May 19, 2015 at 01:46:10PM -0700, Alexei Starovoitov escreveu:
> > On 5/19/15 9:40 AM, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:
> > >Em Wed, May 20, 2015 at 01:04:48AM +0900, Namhyung Kim escreveu:
> > >>If we go with 'perf record' rather than 'perf bpf record', I agree
> > >>that --event option is more natural than --filter. The --event option
> > >>says that it will record - or enable, at least - a (kprobe) event for
> > >>bpf programs in it and then do something with it. :)
> > >>
> > >>Maybe something like this?
> > >>
> > >> perf record --event bpf:/path/to/object
> > >
> > >The syntax maybe one of many, say if it sees a ".o" suffix in the even
> > >name, look if the provided event name is a file and if this file has the
> > >ELF header, whatever.
> >
> > agree. 'bpf:' prefix is redundant.
>
> I would say unnecessarily exposing an implementation detail :-)
>
> > To me the following syntax is fine:
> > perf record --event bpf_file.o
>
> Agreed, for something pre-compiled.
>
> > In the future it can support automatically:
> > perf record --event bpf_file.c
>
> Right, to compile it, then use the resulting bpf_file.o just like in the
> first case, then, on another patch, cache it and next time just check
> that the contents of the file hasn't changed, so the .o file can be
> used, i.e. ccache like stuff.
>
> > Wang, thoughts?
> >
> > >>Oh, this looks like an interesting approach.. are you saying something
> > >>like below?
> > >
> > >No, those are way too many steps :-)
> > >
> > >What 'perf script' does? Right now you can ask for a script to run and
> > >it will both start 'perf record' with the proper events, and then
> > >"immediately" consume it, piping the output of the 'record' "script" to
> > >the consumer, that is 'perf script' itself running an interpreter, perl
> > >or python.
> >
> > if you're proposing to do something like:
> > perf script bpf_file.c
> > that will do event creation, filtering, aggregation, reporting
> > and printing results, then it's fine.
> > This is pretty much what I thought 'perf bpf run' will do.
>
> Agreed, that is what I think should be done, parts of what is in
> bpf.file.c are related to the data collection, some are for filtering,
> and parts are for reporting, etc.
Looks great! :)
>
> This all should use infrastructure in perf for symbol resolving,
> callcahins, etc.
But then we need to stabilize libperf APIs IMHO. :)
Thanks,
Namhyung
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Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-05-17 10:56 [RFC PATCH v3 00/37] perf tools: introduce 'perf bpf' command to load eBPF programs Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 01/37] perf/events/core: fix race in bpf program unregister Wang Nan
2015-05-18 16:59 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 02/37] perf tools: Set vmlinux_path__nr_entries to 0 in vmlinux_path__exit Wang Nan
2015-05-18 17:01 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-18 20:28 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-20 12:25 ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 03/37] tools lib traceevent: Install libtraceevent.a into libdir Wang Nan
2015-05-18 14:28 ` Jiri Olsa
2015-05-20 12:26 ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 04/37] tools: Change FEATURE_TESTS and FEATURE_DISPLAY to weak binding Wang Nan
2015-05-18 14:30 ` Jiri Olsa
2015-05-20 12:26 ` [tip:perf/core] tools build: " tip-bot for Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 05/37] tools: Add __aligned_u64 to types.h Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 06/37] bpf tools: Introduce 'bpf' library to tools Wang Nan
2015-05-18 17:35 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-20 3:48 ` Wangnan (F)
2015-05-20 5:24 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-21 0:24 ` Wangnan (F)
2015-05-21 17:53 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-21 7:10 ` Wangnan (F)
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 07/37] bpf tools: Allow caller to set printing function Wang Nan
2015-05-18 17:55 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 08/37] bpf tools: Define basic interface Wang Nan
2015-05-18 17:57 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-22 17:22 ` Jiri Olsa
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 09/37] bpf tools: Open eBPF object file and do basic validation Wang Nan
2015-05-18 18:06 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-22 17:22 ` Jiri Olsa
2015-05-22 17:23 ` Jiri Olsa
2015-05-23 1:00 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-25 13:30 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-26 0:05 ` Wangnan (F)
2015-05-26 0:41 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 10/37] bpf tools: Check endianess and set swap flag according to EHDR Wang Nan
2015-05-18 18:19 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 11/37] bpf tools: Iterate over ELF sections to collect information Wang Nan
2015-05-18 18:21 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 12/37] bpf tools: Collect version and license from ELF sections Wang Nan
2015-05-18 18:27 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-18 20:34 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-18 20:51 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 13/37] bpf tools: Collect map definitions from 'maps' section Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 14/37] bpf tools: Collect config string from 'config' section Wang Nan
2015-05-18 18:30 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 15/37] bpf tools: Collect symbol table from SHT_SYMTAB section Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 16/37] bpf tools: Collect eBPF programs from their own sections Wang Nan
2015-05-18 12:29 ` Namhyung Kim
2015-05-18 12:47 ` Wangnan (F)
2015-05-18 18:32 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 17/37] bpf tools: Collect relocation sections from SHT_REL sections Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 18/37] bpf tools: Record map accessing instructions for each program Wang Nan
2015-05-18 18:34 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-25 7:39 ` Wangnan (F)
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 19/37] bpf tools: Clear libelf and ELF parsing resrouce to finish opening Wang Nan
2015-05-18 18:36 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-18 20:35 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 20/37] bpf tools: Add bpf.c/h for common bpf operations Wang Nan
2015-05-18 18:39 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-22 17:24 ` Jiri Olsa
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 21/37] bpf tools: Create eBPF maps defined in an object file Wang Nan
2015-05-18 18:48 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-18 20:37 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-25 9:23 ` Wangnan (F)
2015-05-22 17:23 ` Jiri Olsa
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 22/37] bpf tools: Relocate eBPF programs Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 23/37] bpf tools: Introduce bpf_load_program() to bpf.c Wang Nan
2015-05-18 18:52 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-18 20:37 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 24/37] bpf tools: Load eBPF programs in object files into kernel Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 25/37] bpf tools: Introduce accessors for struct bpf_program Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 26/37] bpf tools: Introduce accessors for struct bpf_object Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 27/37] perf tools: Add new 'perf bpf' command Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 28/37] perf tools: Make perf depend on libbpf Wang Nan
2015-05-22 17:24 ` Jiri Olsa
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 29/37] perf bpf: Add 'perf bpf record' subcommand Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 30/37] perf bpf: Add bpf-loader and open ELF object files Wang Nan
2015-05-22 17:24 ` Jiri Olsa
2015-05-25 11:47 ` Wangnan (F)
2015-05-25 13:00 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 31/37] perf bpf: Collect all eBPF programs Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 32/37] perf bpf: Parse probe points of eBPF programs during preparation Wang Nan
2015-05-22 17:24 ` Jiri Olsa
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 33/37] perf bpf: Probe at kprobe points Wang Nan
2015-05-18 19:25 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 34/37] perf bpf: Load all eBPF object into kernel Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:57 ` [RFC PATCH v3 35/37] perf tools: Add a bpf_wrapper global flag Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:57 ` [RFC PATCH v3 36/37] perf tools: Add bpf_fd field to evsel and config it Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:57 ` [RFC PATCH v3 37/37] perf tools: Attach eBPF program to perf event Wang Nan
2015-05-18 19:38 ` [RFC PATCH v3 00/37] perf tools: introduce 'perf bpf' command to load eBPF programs Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-18 20:44 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-18 21:05 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-18 21:20 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-18 21:45 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-19 13:44 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-19 16:04 ` Namhyung Kim
2015-05-19 16:40 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-19 20:46 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-19 21:10 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-19 21:42 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-19 22:05 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-20 1:02 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-20 1:14 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-20 0:30 ` Namhyung Kim [this message]
2015-05-20 0:43 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-26 6:22 ` Wangnan (F)
2015-05-20 0:23 ` Namhyung Kim
2015-05-20 0:37 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
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