From: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>
To: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@plumgrid.com>,
Wang Nan <wangnan0@huawei.com>,
paulus@samba.org, a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl, mingo@redhat.com,
jolsa@kernel.org, dsahern@gmail.com, daniel@iogearbox.net,
brendan.d.gregg@gmail.com, masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com,
lizefan@huawei.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
pi3orama@163.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 00/37] perf tools: introduce 'perf bpf' command to load eBPF programs.
Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 21:37:41 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150520003741.GE26111@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150520002350.GD22713@sejong>
Em Wed, May 20, 2015 at 09:23:50AM +0900, Namhyung Kim escreveu:
> On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 01:40:40PM -0300, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:
> > Em Wed, May 20, 2015 at 01:04:48AM +0900, Namhyung Kim escreveu:
> > > On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 10:44:58AM -0300, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:
> > > If we go with 'perf record' rather than 'perf bpf record', I agree
> > > that --event option is more natural than --filter. The --event option
> > > says that it will record - or enable, at least - a (kprobe) event for
> > > bpf programs in it and then do something with it. :)
> > >
> > > Maybe something like this?
> > >
> > > perf record --event bpf:/path/to/object
> >
> > The syntax maybe one of many, say if it sees a ".o" suffix in the even
> > name, look if the provided event name is a file and if this file has the
> > ELF header, whatever.
> I was thinking about something similar for SDT. I think that it'll
> eventually handle ELF files as an event somehow, no? Maybe we need to
> add ".bpf" suffix?
Well, if both are ELF files, then probably they will have something that
is unique to them, like perhaps some init function, or some section name
that can be used to disambiguate, no?
> > <SNIP>
> >
> > > > > matches perf_event_open model which is FD based as well.
> > > > > And that's only filtering like usage. Where 'perf report' facilities
> > > > > are reused. For 'kernel debugging', 'latency heatmaps' use cases some
> > > > > new visualizations in perf will be needed. That's where
> > > > > 'perf bpf command' fits.
> > > >
> > > > Humm, why not use 'perf script', 'perf trace' as well for those things?
> > > >
> > > > A 'perf script' that actually uses a C subset, gets compiled by llvm and
> > > > then immediately used, with caching for amortizing llvm calls if those
> > > > are that expensive, etc, instead of the current python or perl scripting
> > > > would come in handy for people like PeterZ, right?
> > >
> > > Oh, this looks like an interesting approach.. are you saying something
> > > like below?
> >
> > No, those are way too many steps :-)
> >
> > What 'perf script' does? Right now you can ask for a script to run and
> > it will both start 'perf record' with the proper events, and then
> > "immediately" consume it, piping the output of the 'record' "script" to
> > the consumer, that is 'perf script' itself running an interpreter, perl
> > or python.
>
> Ah, okay. So 'perf script <xxx>' is same as 'perf script record <xxx> -o- | \
> perf script report <xxx> -i-', right?
Something like that, but without two commands spawned using pipes for
communication.
> > Look at:
> >
> > [acme@ssdandy linux]$ ls -la ~/libexec/perf-core/scripts/perl/bin/
> > total 64
> > drwxr-xr-x. 2 acme acme 4096 May 19 11:53 .
> > drwxr-xr-x. 4 acme acme 4096 May 19 11:53 ..
> > -rwxr-xr-x. 1 acme acme 78 May 19 11:53 check-perf-trace-record
> > -rwxr-xr-x. 1 acme acme 132 Jan 6 11:36 check-perf-trace-report
> > -rwxr-xr-x. 1 acme acme 109 May 19 11:53 failed-syscalls-record
> > -rwxr-xr-x. 1 acme acme 241 May 19 11:53 failed-syscalls-report
> > -rwxr-xr-x. 1 acme acme 83 May 19 11:53 rw-by-file-record
> > -rwxr-xr-x. 1 acme acme 232 May 19 11:53 rw-by-file-report
> > -rwxr-xr-x. 1 acme acme 135 May 19 11:53 rw-by-pid-record
> > -rwxr-xr-x. 1 acme acme 114 May 19 11:53 rw-by-pid-report
> > -rwxr-xr-x. 1 acme acme 135 May 19 11:53 rwtop-record
> > -rwxr-xr-x. 1 acme acme 398 May 19 11:53 rwtop-report
> > -rwxr-xr-x. 1 acme acme 75 May 19 11:53 wakeup-latency-record
> > -rwxr-xr-x. 1 acme acme 133 May 19 11:53 wakeup-latency-report
> > -rwxr-xr-x. 1 acme acme 160 Jan 6 13:05 workqueue-stats-record
> > -rwxr-xr-x. 1 acme acme 136 Jan 6 13:05 workqueue-stats-report
> > [acme@ssdandy linux]$
> >
> > I.e. the first part, say, failed-syscalls-record, would be done
> > internally, loading the bpf object, etc, the second part would be the
> > event massaging, but done in a C subset :-)
>
> IIRC there's a patch posted to support C for scripting.
>
> https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/5/22/13
Lemme look at it... Yeah, that is part of what needs to be done, i.e.
somehow we need to get the .c "script", build it and connect it to the
perf tool.
> Are you saying about it? A rough idea is that it'd be nice to have a
> kind of this report/display code in a section of the bpf file itself.
Exactly. All in one file, parts of it built for specific purposes and
loaded in each needed way, then all gets connected.
- Arnaldo
prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-05-20 0:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-05-17 10:56 [RFC PATCH v3 00/37] perf tools: introduce 'perf bpf' command to load eBPF programs Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 01/37] perf/events/core: fix race in bpf program unregister Wang Nan
2015-05-18 16:59 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 02/37] perf tools: Set vmlinux_path__nr_entries to 0 in vmlinux_path__exit Wang Nan
2015-05-18 17:01 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-18 20:28 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-20 12:25 ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 03/37] tools lib traceevent: Install libtraceevent.a into libdir Wang Nan
2015-05-18 14:28 ` Jiri Olsa
2015-05-20 12:26 ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 04/37] tools: Change FEATURE_TESTS and FEATURE_DISPLAY to weak binding Wang Nan
2015-05-18 14:30 ` Jiri Olsa
2015-05-20 12:26 ` [tip:perf/core] tools build: " tip-bot for Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 05/37] tools: Add __aligned_u64 to types.h Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 06/37] bpf tools: Introduce 'bpf' library to tools Wang Nan
2015-05-18 17:35 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-20 3:48 ` Wangnan (F)
2015-05-20 5:24 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-21 0:24 ` Wangnan (F)
2015-05-21 17:53 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-21 7:10 ` Wangnan (F)
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 07/37] bpf tools: Allow caller to set printing function Wang Nan
2015-05-18 17:55 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 08/37] bpf tools: Define basic interface Wang Nan
2015-05-18 17:57 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-22 17:22 ` Jiri Olsa
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 09/37] bpf tools: Open eBPF object file and do basic validation Wang Nan
2015-05-18 18:06 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-22 17:22 ` Jiri Olsa
2015-05-22 17:23 ` Jiri Olsa
2015-05-23 1:00 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-25 13:30 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-26 0:05 ` Wangnan (F)
2015-05-26 0:41 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 10/37] bpf tools: Check endianess and set swap flag according to EHDR Wang Nan
2015-05-18 18:19 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 11/37] bpf tools: Iterate over ELF sections to collect information Wang Nan
2015-05-18 18:21 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 12/37] bpf tools: Collect version and license from ELF sections Wang Nan
2015-05-18 18:27 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-18 20:34 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-18 20:51 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 13/37] bpf tools: Collect map definitions from 'maps' section Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 14/37] bpf tools: Collect config string from 'config' section Wang Nan
2015-05-18 18:30 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 15/37] bpf tools: Collect symbol table from SHT_SYMTAB section Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 16/37] bpf tools: Collect eBPF programs from their own sections Wang Nan
2015-05-18 12:29 ` Namhyung Kim
2015-05-18 12:47 ` Wangnan (F)
2015-05-18 18:32 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 17/37] bpf tools: Collect relocation sections from SHT_REL sections Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 18/37] bpf tools: Record map accessing instructions for each program Wang Nan
2015-05-18 18:34 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-25 7:39 ` Wangnan (F)
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 19/37] bpf tools: Clear libelf and ELF parsing resrouce to finish opening Wang Nan
2015-05-18 18:36 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-18 20:35 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 20/37] bpf tools: Add bpf.c/h for common bpf operations Wang Nan
2015-05-18 18:39 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-22 17:24 ` Jiri Olsa
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 21/37] bpf tools: Create eBPF maps defined in an object file Wang Nan
2015-05-18 18:48 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-18 20:37 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-25 9:23 ` Wangnan (F)
2015-05-22 17:23 ` Jiri Olsa
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 22/37] bpf tools: Relocate eBPF programs Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 23/37] bpf tools: Introduce bpf_load_program() to bpf.c Wang Nan
2015-05-18 18:52 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-18 20:37 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 24/37] bpf tools: Load eBPF programs in object files into kernel Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 25/37] bpf tools: Introduce accessors for struct bpf_program Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 26/37] bpf tools: Introduce accessors for struct bpf_object Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 27/37] perf tools: Add new 'perf bpf' command Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 28/37] perf tools: Make perf depend on libbpf Wang Nan
2015-05-22 17:24 ` Jiri Olsa
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 29/37] perf bpf: Add 'perf bpf record' subcommand Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 30/37] perf bpf: Add bpf-loader and open ELF object files Wang Nan
2015-05-22 17:24 ` Jiri Olsa
2015-05-25 11:47 ` Wangnan (F)
2015-05-25 13:00 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 31/37] perf bpf: Collect all eBPF programs Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 32/37] perf bpf: Parse probe points of eBPF programs during preparation Wang Nan
2015-05-22 17:24 ` Jiri Olsa
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 33/37] perf bpf: Probe at kprobe points Wang Nan
2015-05-18 19:25 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 34/37] perf bpf: Load all eBPF object into kernel Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:57 ` [RFC PATCH v3 35/37] perf tools: Add a bpf_wrapper global flag Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:57 ` [RFC PATCH v3 36/37] perf tools: Add bpf_fd field to evsel and config it Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:57 ` [RFC PATCH v3 37/37] perf tools: Attach eBPF program to perf event Wang Nan
2015-05-18 19:38 ` [RFC PATCH v3 00/37] perf tools: introduce 'perf bpf' command to load eBPF programs Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-18 20:44 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-18 21:05 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-18 21:20 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-18 21:45 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-19 13:44 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-19 16:04 ` Namhyung Kim
2015-05-19 16:40 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-19 20:46 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-19 21:10 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-19 21:42 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-19 22:05 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-20 1:02 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-20 1:14 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-20 0:30 ` Namhyung Kim
2015-05-20 0:43 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-26 6:22 ` Wangnan (F)
2015-05-20 0:23 ` Namhyung Kim
2015-05-20 0:37 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo [this message]
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