From: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@suse.com>
To: josh@joshtriplett.org
Cc: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
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"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC v1] tree-wide: remove "select FW_LOADER" uses
Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 00:22:00 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150522222200.GP23057@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150522214357.GA24129@cloud>
On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 02:43:57PM -0700, josh@joshtriplett.org wrote:
> On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 09:28:14PM +0200, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> > So the question still stands -- are there any kconfig options which
> > depend on EXPERT which enable folks to screw up run time (not just driver
> > tweaks?
>
> I don't think it should be possible
OK, thanks!
> > So unless I'm missing a corner case, it would seem replacing "select FW_LOADER"
> > with "depends on FW_LOADER" is a reasonable option so far. The subtleties lie
> > then now in since EXPERT is used by most distributions, everyone is an expert,
> > and:
> >
> > a) Do we want to be consistent about ensuring run time sanity of EXPERT?
> > b) Should we split EXPERT into tweak / possible run time break options?
>
> "depends on FW_LOADER" and "select FW_LOADER" are equivalent from the
> point of view of what configs they allow; they differ in how the
> dependency is shown in UIs.
>
> However, from the sounds of things, you want to add a dependency to
> FW_LOADER.
Nope the recursive case was that a new component which depends on
FW_LOADER ended up selecting CRYPTO, and it turns out another driver
which depends on FW_LOADER also depended on CRYPTO so that in turn
creates a recursive dependency.
> So in that case, yeah, switch to depends rather than
> rewriting Kconfig, unless you're feeling really ambitious.
OK so switching to "depends on" is the winning contender so far.
> > > > Note that not changing this means we *will* eventually run into the
> > > > recursive dependency issue later, either with my FW API change patches
> > > > or some other future feature. Likewise for any other kconfig option
> > > > with similar semantics.
>
> By "recursive dependency issue", I'm guessing that someone wants to make
> FW_LOADER depend on something else, which breaks because "select"
> doesn't know how to recurse?
Kind of, the issue actually was a new component which depends on FW_LOADER
and has crypto dependencies. Since the qat crypto driver selects FW_LOADER
but also has a set of crypto dependencies that creates a recursive dependency
loop.
> Ideally, someone should teach Kconfig to handle recursive dependencies,
> but in the meantime using "depends" makes sense.
Doesn't sound like anyone is that enthusiastic about that.
So... shall we just switch to "depends on" tree-wide then for FW_LOADER?
Luis
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-05-22 22:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-05-21 20:45 [RFC v1] tree-wide: remove "select FW_LOADER" uses Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-05-21 22:21 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-05-22 6:53 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-05-22 7:11 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-05-22 7:41 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-05-22 7:45 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-05-22 7:56 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-05-22 8:17 ` Paul Bolle
2015-05-22 8:24 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-05-22 8:26 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-05-22 8:44 ` Takashi Iwai
2015-05-22 9:06 ` Paul Bolle
2015-05-22 9:56 ` Takashi Iwai
2015-05-22 17:43 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-05-22 17:57 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-05-22 18:19 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-05-22 18:52 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-05-22 19:28 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-05-22 20:22 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-05-22 21:43 ` josh
2015-05-22 22:22 ` Luis R. Rodriguez [this message]
2015-05-22 22:33 ` Herbert Xu
2015-05-22 23:02 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-05-22 23:54 ` Josh Triplett
2015-05-23 7:14 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-05-25 10:55 ` Paul Bolle
2015-05-25 17:54 ` Josh Triplett
2015-05-25 18:25 ` Paul Bolle
2015-05-25 19:06 ` Josh Triplett
2015-05-25 19:16 ` Paul Bolle
2015-05-25 19:07 ` James Bottomley
2015-05-25 19:29 ` Josh Triplett
2015-05-25 21:29 ` James Bottomley
2015-05-26 0:47 ` Josh Triplett
2015-05-26 1:33 ` James Bottomley
2015-05-26 8:28 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-05-25 10:59 ` Paul Bolle
2015-05-22 19:30 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-05-22 20:12 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-05-25 9:27 ` Paul Bolle
2015-05-25 11:10 ` Paul Bolle
2015-05-22 8:32 ` Paul Bolle
2015-05-22 9:05 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-05-22 9:20 ` Paul Bolle
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