From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Paul McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
der.herr@hofr.at, Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/5] Optimize percpu-rwsem
Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 21:13:43 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150526191343.GA5794@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150526185727.GA3763@redhat.com>
On 05/26, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
>
> On 05/26, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> >
> >
> > We literally have one single percpu-rwsem IN THE WHOLE KERNEL TREE.
> >
> > One.
>
> Well. IIRC Tejun is going to turn signal_struct->group_rwsem into
> percpu-rwsem.
>
> And it can have more users. Say, __sb_start_write/etc does something
> similar, and last time I checked this code it looked buggy to me.
I have found my old email, see below. Perhaps this code was changed
since 2013 when I sent this email, I didn't verify... but in any
case this logic doesn't look simple, imo it would be nice to rely
on the generic helpers from kernel/locking.
Oleg.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
When I look at __sb_start_write/etc I am not sure this locking
is correct. OK, __sb_start_write() does:
percpu_counter_inc();
mb();
if (sb->s_writers.frozen)
abort_and_retry;
freeze_super() does STORE + mb + LOAD in reverse order so either
__sb_start_write() must see SB_FREEZE_WRITE or freeze_super() must
see the change in ->s_writers.counter. This is correct.
Still I am not sure sb_wait_write() can trust percpu_counter_sum(),
because it can also see _other_ changes.
To simplify the discussion, suppose that percpu_counter doesn't have
lock/count/batch/whatever and inc/dec/sum only uses "__percpu *counters".
Lets denote sb->s_writers.counter[level] as CTR[cpu].
Suppose that some thread did __sb_start_write() on CPU_1 and sleeps
"forever". CTR[0] == 0, CTR_[1] == 1, freezer_super() should block.
Now:
1. freeze_super() sets SB_FREEZE_WRITE, does mb(), and
starts sb_wait_write()->percpu_counter_sum().
2. __percpu_counter_sum() does for_each_online_cpu(),
reads CTR[0] == 0. ret = 0.
3. Another thread comes, calls __sb_start_write() on CPU_0,
increments CTR[0].
Then it notices sb->s_writers.frozen >= level and starts
__sb_end_write() before retry.
Then it migrates to CPU_1. And decrements CTR[1] before
__percpu_counter_sum() reads it.
So CTR[0] == 1, CTR[1] == 0. Everything is fine except
sb_wait_write() has already read CTR[0].
4. __percpu_counter_sum() continues, reads CTR[1] == 0
and returns ret == 0.
sb_wait_write() returns while it should not?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-05-26 19:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-05-26 11:43 [RFC][PATCH 0/5] Optimize percpu-rwsem Peter Zijlstra
2015-05-26 11:43 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/5] rcu: Create rcu_sync infrastructure Peter Zijlstra
2015-05-30 16:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-05-30 19:16 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-05-30 19:25 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-05-31 16:07 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-05-26 11:43 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/5] rcusync: Introduce struct rcu_sync_ops Peter Zijlstra
2015-05-26 11:43 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/5] rcusync: Add the CONFIG_PROVE_RCU checks Peter Zijlstra
2015-05-26 11:44 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/5] rcusync: Introduce rcu_sync_dtor() Peter Zijlstra
2015-05-26 11:44 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/5] percpu-rwsem: Optimize readers and reduce global impact Peter Zijlstra
2015-05-29 19:45 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-05-29 20:09 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-05-29 20:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-30 20:49 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-16 11:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-05-30 17:18 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-05-30 20:04 ` ring_buffer_attach && cond_synchronize_rcu (Was: percpu-rwsem: Optimize readers and reduce global impact) Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-16 11:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-16 11:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-16 19:03 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-19 17:57 ` [tip:perf/urgent] perf: Fix ring_buffer_attach() RCU sync, again tip-bot for Oleg Nesterov
2015-05-26 18:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/5] Optimize percpu-rwsem Linus Torvalds
2015-05-26 18:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-05-26 18:35 ` Tejun Heo
2015-05-26 18:42 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-05-26 21:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-27 9:28 ` Nicholas Mc Guire
2015-06-05 1:45 ` Al Viro
2015-06-05 21:08 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-05 22:11 ` Al Viro
2015-06-05 23:36 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-05-27 6:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-05-26 18:57 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-05-26 19:13 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2015-05-26 19:29 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-05-26 19:54 ` Davidlohr Bueso
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