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From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.cz>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Dave Anderson <anderson@redhat.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Kay Sievers <kay@vrfy.org>, Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Wang Long <long.wanglong@huawei.com>,
	peifeiyue@huawei.com, dzickus@redhat.com, morgan.wang@huawei.com,
	sasha.levin@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/10] printk: Avoid deadlock in NMI context
Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 14:00:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150528120026.GD3135@pathway.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150527161346.fb3178d393ebbaafea4e3906@linux-foundation.org>

On Wed 2015-05-27 16:13:46, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Mon, 25 May 2015 14:46:24 +0200 Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.cz> wrote:
> 
> > printk() cannot be used in NMI context safely because it uses an internal
> > lock and thus could cause a deadlock. This is fine because NMI context
> > is very special. The handlers should be short, effective, and do not
> > use printk().
> > 
> > But developers tend to print warnings even from NMI code. They are pretty
> > hard to debug when they lockup the machine and nothing appears in the logs.
> > 
> > This patch prevents from the deadlock on logbuf_lock by using trylock
> > rather than spin_lock. If the lock can not be taken, the message is
> > ignored and some warning is printed later on.
> > 
> > We also must not try to get console from NMI context. It needs
> > even more locks and there is even higher chance to hung up.
> > 
> > Unfortunately, we could not print more details about the lost message.
> > We could not alloc a buffer in NMI. Therefore we would need some
> > lockless mechanism to share a buffer between NMI and normal context.
> > But this would make printk() code much more complicated and
> > it is not worth it. There has already been an attempt to do so
> > and it has been rejected, see https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/6/10/388
> > This is also the reason why we use the atomic counter.
> 
> hm, I expect it wouldn't be too messy to shove the text into a static
> per-cpu buffer.  So we at least get a few hundred bytes of stuff.

The problem is that we would need to read the static buffer in the normal
context without a lock. The result might be a messy message. Or I
could add some lock-less hackery to keep some consistency but this
would make the code more complex.

In each case, we will not be able to preserve all messages. So, I am
not sure if any more complex solution is worth doing.

Note that we are talking about a corner case. printk() should not be
used in NMI in the first place. If it is used, we still do our best
to get it out. We try to get Oops messages even harder out. If the
message is lost, it might mean some flood of printk()s and
the message might get lost anyway.

> 
> > +		/* emit KERN_CRIT message */
> > +		printed_len += log_store(0, 2, LOG_PREFIX|LOG_NEWLINE, 0,
>   +					 NULL, 0, text, text_len);
> 
> s/2/LOGLEVEL_CRIT/

Good point.

Best Regards,
Petr

  reply	other threads:[~2015-05-28 12:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-25 12:46 [PATCH 00/10] printk: Avoid deadlock in NMI + vprintk_emit() cleanup Petr Mladek
2015-05-25 12:46 ` [PATCH 01/10] printk: Avoid deadlock in NMI context Petr Mladek
2015-05-27 23:13   ` Andrew Morton
2015-05-28 12:00     ` Petr Mladek [this message]
2015-05-25 12:46 ` [PATCH 02/10] printk: Try harder to get logbuf_lock on NMI Petr Mladek
2015-05-27 23:14   ` Andrew Morton
2015-05-28  7:54     ` Jiri Kosina
2015-05-28 13:50     ` Petr Mladek
2015-05-28 20:09       ` Andrew Morton
2015-05-29 10:56         ` Petr Mladek
2015-05-29 20:46           ` Andrew Morton
2015-05-25 12:46 ` [PATCH 03/10] printk: Move the deferred printk stuff Petr Mladek
2015-05-25 12:46 ` [PATCH 04/10] printk: Merge and flush NMI buffer predictably via IRQ work Petr Mladek
2015-05-27 23:14   ` Andrew Morton
2015-05-28 13:12     ` Petr Mladek
2015-05-25 12:46 ` [PATCH 05/10] printk: Try hard to print Oops message in NMI context Petr Mladek
2015-05-25 12:46 ` [PATCH 06/10] printk: Split delayed printing of warnings from vprintk_emit() Petr Mladek
2015-05-25 12:46 ` [PATCH 07/10] printk: Split text formatting and analyze " Petr Mladek
2015-05-25 12:46 ` [PATCH 08/10] printk: Detect scheduler messages in vprintk_format_and_analyze() Petr Mladek
2015-05-25 12:46 ` [PATCH 09/10] printk: Split text storing logic from vprintk_emit() Petr Mladek
2015-05-25 12:46 ` [PATCH 10/10] printk: Split console call " Petr Mladek
2015-05-29 20:50 ` [PATCH 00/10] printk: Avoid deadlock in NMI + vprintk_emit() cleanup Andrew Morton
2015-06-01 13:06   ` Jan Kara
2015-06-02  9:46     ` long.wanglong
2015-06-02  9:52       ` Jiri Kosina

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