From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932067AbbE1NRz (ORCPT ); Thu, 28 May 2015 09:17:55 -0400 Received: from mail-wg0-f47.google.com ([74.125.82.47]:36624 "EHLO mail-wg0-f47.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751466AbbE1NRr (ORCPT ); Thu, 28 May 2015 09:17:47 -0400 Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 15:17:43 +0200 From: Ingo Molnar To: Jan Beulich Cc: Borislav Petkov , Andy Lutomirski , Peter Zijlstra , mingo@elte.hu, Brian Gerst , fweisbec@gmail.com, tglx@linutronix.de, Linus Torvalds , Denys Vlasenko , Josh Poimboeuf , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, hpa@zytor.com Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/debug: Remove perpetually broken, unmaintainable dwarf annotations Message-ID: <20150528131743.GA9496@gmail.com> References: <5566EBE7020000780007E659@mail.emea.novell.com> <20150528090133.GA469@gmail.com> <5566FFDD020000780007E711@mail.emea.novell.com> <20150528112017.GA28196@gmail.com> <55671D63020000780007E885@mail.emea.novell.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <55671D63020000780007E885@mail.emea.novell.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org * Jan Beulich wrote: > > and meanwhile you can keep a revert of this patch ported to SUSE kernels in > > whatever fashion you prefer. > > Funny suggestion - I don't think that's reasonable for us to do. Or if we were > to, we could as well invest in doing the re-work you're asking for; I don't > think anyone will have the time to do either. That's fair enough: if there's not enough resources to keep a feature maintainable upstream then it should not be upstream in that form. This isn't just some driver we can let bit-rot in peace until it finds a maintainer (or not), without affecting anyone but users of that driver. This is hundreds of usage sites of ugly code intermixed with critical pieces of assembly code that negatively affects the hackability of everything. Also, with the feature missing completely, maybe someone finds a method to introduce it in a maintainable fashion, while with the feature included upstream there's very little pressure to do that. As a bonus we'd also win a workable dwarf unwinder. Thanks, Ingo