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From: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>
To: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
Cc: "Wangnan (F)" <wangnan0@huawei.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
	paulus@samba.org, a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl, mingo@redhat.com,
	jolsa@kernel.org, dsahern@gmail.com, daniel@iogearbox.net,
	brendan.d.gregg@gmail.com, masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com,
	lizefan@huawei.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	pi3orama@163.com, xiakaixu 00238161 <xiakaixu@huawei.com>,
	William Cohen <wcohen@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v4 10/29] bpf tools: Collect map definitions from 'maps' section
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 10:01:29 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150601130129.GF624@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150601060311.GB22455@danjae>

Em Mon, Jun 01, 2015 at 03:03:11PM +0900, Namhyung Kim escreveu:
> On Mon, Jun 01, 2015 at 01:19:16PM +0800, Wangnan (F) wrote:
> > On 2015/6/1 10:12, Namhyung Kim wrote:
> > >On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 08:35:19PM -0700, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> > >>On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 03:14:44PM +0800, Wangnan (F) wrote:
> > >>>On 2015/5/28 14:09, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> > >>As far as 'bpf_store_value' goes... I was thinking to expose perf ring_buffer
> > >>to bpf programs, so that program can stream any data to perf that receives
> > >>it via mmap. Then you don't need this '$outdata' hack.
> > >Then we need to define and pass the format of such data so that perf
> > >tools can read and process the data.  IIRC Masami suggested to have an
> > >additional user event type for inserting/injecting non-perf events -
> > >like PERF_RECORD_USER_DEFINED_TYPE?  And its contents is something

That would behave mostly like PERF_TYPE_TRACEPOINT but would look for
event /format definitions in another place? Perhaps one that is in a per
buildid location, i.e. each library has its own place to store such
field definitions, and by tying it to a particular version, it could
change it as it see fit?

> > >similar to tracepoint event format file so that we can reuse existing
> > >code to parse the event definition.

> > Is it possible to expose such format through
> > /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/events/*/*/format
> > so we can avoid extra work on perf side and make it accessable by both perf
> > and ftrace?

> No, I mean export such format through an event in perf.data file.  It
> still needs extra work on perf-tools side.  But by using user-defined
> event types, there should be no kernel-side work.
> 
> Above is just a suggestion how to deal with external data/events in
> perf.  But I'm seeing many people want such feature so we need a way
> to handle it anyway. ;-)

Right, having a way to map from a { attr.type = PERF_TYPE_USER_DEFINED,
attr.config = N }, to a description of the fields, like what we have now
for tracepoints, kprobes and uprobes, seems the way to reuse most of the
existing infrastructure.

We then collect just the /format files referenced in the perf.data file
and all seems to be in place, no?

- Arnaldo

  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-01 13:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-27  5:19 [RFC PATCH v4 00/29] perf tools: filtering events using eBPF programs Wang Nan
2015-05-27  5:19 ` [RFC PATCH v4 01/29] tools: Add __aligned_u64 to types.h Wang Nan
2015-05-27 13:00   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-28  0:28     ` Wangnan (F)
2015-05-28  0:31       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-27  5:19 ` [RFC PATCH v4 02/29] perf tools: Move linux/kernel.h to tools/include Wang Nan
2015-05-27 13:03   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-27  5:19 ` [RFC PATCH v4 03/29] perf tools: Move linux/{list.h,poison.h} " Wang Nan
2015-05-27 13:15   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-27 13:21     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-27 15:30       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-27  5:19 ` [RFC PATCH v4 04/29] bpf tools: Introduce 'bpf' library to tools Wang Nan
2015-05-27  5:19 ` [RFC PATCH v4 05/29] bpf tools: Allow caller to set printing function Wang Nan
2015-05-29 13:35   ` Namhyung Kim
2015-05-27  5:19 ` [RFC PATCH v4 06/29] bpf tools: Open eBPF object file and do basic validation Wang Nan
2015-05-28  1:44   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-27  5:19 ` [RFC PATCH v4 07/29] bpf tools: Check endianess and make libbpf fail early Wang Nan
2015-05-28  1:45   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-27  5:19 ` [RFC PATCH v4 08/29] bpf tools: Iterate over ELF sections to collect information Wang Nan
2015-05-28  1:46   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-27  5:19 ` [RFC PATCH v4 09/29] bpf tools: Collect version and license from ELF sections Wang Nan
2015-05-28  1:48   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-28  3:34     ` Wangnan (F)
2015-05-28  5:51       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-27  5:19 ` [RFC PATCH v4 10/29] bpf tools: Collect map definitions from 'maps' section Wang Nan
2015-05-28  1:53   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-28  2:03     ` Wangnan (F)
2015-05-28  2:28       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-28  3:09         ` Wangnan (F)
2015-05-28  6:09           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-28  7:14             ` Wangnan (F)
2015-05-29  3:35               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-29  3:59                 ` Wangnan (F)
2015-06-01  2:12                 ` Namhyung Kim
2015-06-01  5:19                   ` Wangnan (F)
2015-06-01  6:03                     ` Namhyung Kim
2015-06-01 13:01                       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo [this message]
2015-05-27  5:19 ` [RFC PATCH v4 11/29] bpf tools: Collect symbol table from SHT_SYMTAB section Wang Nan
2015-05-27  5:19 ` [RFC PATCH v4 12/29] bpf tools: Collect eBPF programs from their own sections Wang Nan
2015-05-27  5:19 ` [RFC PATCH v4 13/29] bpf tools: Collect relocation sections from SHT_REL sections Wang Nan
2015-05-27  5:19 ` [RFC PATCH v4 14/29] bpf tools: Record map accessing instructions for each program Wang Nan
2015-05-27  5:19 ` [RFC PATCH v4 15/29] bpf tools: Add bpf.c/h for common bpf operations Wang Nan
2015-05-28  1:55   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-29 14:44   ` Namhyung Kim
2015-05-27  5:19 ` [RFC PATCH v4 16/29] bpf tools: Create eBPF maps defined in an object file Wang Nan
2015-05-28  1:57   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-27  5:19 ` [RFC PATCH v4 17/29] bpf tools: Relocate eBPF programs Wang Nan
2015-06-01  5:32   ` Namhyung Kim
2015-06-01  6:36     ` Wangnan (F)
2015-05-27  5:19 ` [RFC PATCH v4 18/29] bpf tools: Introduce bpf_load_program() to bpf.c Wang Nan
2015-05-28  2:14   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-27  5:19 ` [RFC PATCH v4 19/29] bpf tools: Load eBPF programs in object files into kernel Wang Nan
2015-05-27  5:19 ` [RFC PATCH v4 20/29] bpf tools: Introduce accessors for struct bpf_program Wang Nan
2015-05-27  5:19 ` [RFC PATCH v4 21/29] bpf tools: Introduce accessors for struct bpf_object Wang Nan
2015-05-27  5:19 ` [RFC PATCH v4 22/29] bpf tools: Link all bpf objects onto a list Wang Nan
2015-05-27  5:19 ` [RFC PATCH v4 23/29] perf tools: Make perf depend on libbpf Wang Nan
2015-05-27  5:19 ` [RFC PATCH v4 24/29] perf record: Enable passing bpf object file to --event Wang Nan
2015-05-27  5:20 ` [RFC PATCH v4 25/29] perf tools: Parse probe points of eBPF programs during preparation Wang Nan
2015-05-27  5:20 ` [RFC PATCH v4 26/29] perf record: Probe at kprobe points Wang Nan
2015-05-27  5:20 ` [RFC PATCH v4 27/29] perf record: Load all eBPF object into kernel Wang Nan
2015-05-27  5:20 ` [RFC PATCH v4 28/29] perf tools: Add bpf_fd field to evsel and config it Wang Nan
2015-05-27  5:20 ` [RFC PATCH v4 29/29] perf tools: Attach eBPF program to perf event Wang Nan

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