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From: Jann Horn <jann@thejh.net>
To: Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Tycho Andersen <tycho.andersen@canonical.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Will Drewry <wad@chromium.org>,
	Roland McGrath <roland@hack.frob.com>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge.hallyn@ubuntu.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] seccomp: add ptrace commands for suspend/resume
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 21:24:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150602192450.GA14907@pc.thejh.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <556DFDB2.3050205@parallels.com>

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On Tue, Jun 02, 2015 at 10:02:10PM +0300, Pavel Emelyanov wrote:
> 
> >> +int suspend_seccomp(struct task_struct *task)
> >> +{
> >> +	int ret = -EACCES;
> >> +
> >> +	spin_lock_irq(&task->sighand->siglock);
> >> +
> >> +	if (!capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN))
> >> +		goto out;
> > 
> > I am puzzled ;) Why do we need ->siglock? And even if we need it, why
> > we can't check CAP_SYS_ADMIN lockless?
> > 
> > And I am not sure I understand why do we need the additional security
> > check, but I leave this to you and Andy.
> > 
> > If you have the rights to trace this task, then you can do anything
> > the tracee could do without the filtering.
> 
> I think _this_ check is required, otherwise the seccomp-ed task (in
> filtered mode) fork-s a child, then this child ptrace-attach to parent
> (allowed) then suspend its seccomd. And -- we have unpriviledged process 
> de-seccomped.

If you can ptrace(), you can already escape from seccomp. See this
section in man 2 seccomp, in the SECCOMP_RET_TRACE section:

              The seccomp check will not be run again after the tracer is
              notified.  (This means that seccomp-based sandboxes must not
              allow use of ptrace(2)—even of other sandboxed processes—
              without extreme care; ptracers can use this mechanism to
              escape from the seccomp sandbox.)

(But I think there have been discussions about changing that behavior in
the future?)

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-02 19:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-01 19:28 [PATCH] seccomp: add ptrace commands for suspend/resume Tycho Andersen
2015-06-01 19:38 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-01 19:47   ` Tycho Andersen
2015-06-01 19:51     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-01 20:12       ` Tycho Andersen
2015-06-02 15:46         ` Tycho Andersen
2015-06-01 20:00   ` Tycho Andersen
2015-06-02  9:36 ` Andrey Wagin
2015-06-02 13:05   ` Tycho Andersen
2015-06-02 18:48     ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-03 16:13       ` Tycho Andersen
2015-06-03 16:54         ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-03 16:58           ` Tycho Andersen
2015-06-03 18:36           ` Tycho Andersen
2015-06-02 18:28 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-02 19:02   ` Pavel Emelyanov
2015-06-02 19:24     ` Jann Horn [this message]
2015-06-02 19:27     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-03 14:45       ` Tycho Andersen
2015-06-02 21:27     ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-03 14:43   ` Tycho Andersen
2015-06-03 16:41     ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-03 17:10       ` Tycho Andersen
2015-06-03 17:11       ` Andy Lutomirski

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