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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@kvack.org>, Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>,
	linux-aio@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] aio: ctx->dead cleanups
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 03:32:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150617013227.GA23368@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150617011414.GB21937@redhat.com>

Damn, sorry for noise, forgot to mention.

And whatever I missed, this ctx->dead check in aio_ring_remap()
looks wrong anyway. Please correct me.

On 06/17, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
>
> On 06/17, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> >
> > On 06/17, Al Viro wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 01:04:14AM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > > > Al, please help. We are trying to backport some aio fixes and I am
> > > > absolutely confused by your b2edffdd912b "fix mremap() vs. ioctx_kill()
> > > > race".
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Firstly, I simply can't understand what exactly it tries to fix. OK,
> > > > aio_free_ring() can race with kill and we can remap the soon-to-be-killed
> > > > ctx. So what? kill_ioctx() will the the correct (already re-mapped)
> > > > ctx->mmap_base after it drops mm->ioctx_lock.
> > >
> > > Huh?  kill_ioctx() picks ctx->mmap_base and passes it to vm_munmap().
> > > Which tries to grab mmap_sem, blocks for mremap() from another thread
> > > and waits for it to drop mmap_sem.  By that time ctx->mmap_base has
> > > nothing whatsoever to the argument we'd passed to vm_munmap().
> >
> > Yes. But it seems that you missed another part of my email:
> >
> > 	So it seems to me we only need this change to ensure that move_vma() can
> > 	not succeed if ctx was already removed from ->ioctx_table, or, if we race
> > 	with ioctx_alloc(), it was not added to ->ioctx_table. IOW, we need to
> > 	ensure that move_vma()->aio_ring_mmap() can not race with
> > 	vm_munmap(ctx->mmap_base) in kill_ioctx() or ioctx_alloc(). And this race
> > 	doesn't look really bad. The kernel can't crash, just the application can
> > 	fool itself.
> >
> > So once again, could explain why do we really need to prevent this?
> > Afaics, if the application is stupid, it can only fool itself.
> >
> > And please note that ctx->mmap_base or/and ctx->mmap_size can be wrong
> > anyway. Say, an application can munmap() this vma, or munmap() the part
> > of this vma.
> 
> And speaking of aio_ring_remap() it can "corrupt" ->mmap_base even with
> this patch. Just you need to mremap() the tail of aio-mapped memory.
> 
> No?
> 
> Oleg.


      reply	other threads:[~2015-06-17  1:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-16 23:04 [PATCH 0/3] aio: ctx->dead cleanups Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-16 23:04 ` [PATCH 1/3] aio_ring_remap: turn the ctx->dead check into WARN_ON() Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-17 17:50   ` Jeff Moyer
2015-06-17 18:42     ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-16 23:04 ` [PATCH 2/3] aio: make aio_ring->dead boolean Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-16 23:50   ` [PATCH v2 " Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-17 19:33     ` Jeff Moyer
2015-06-16 23:04 ` [PATCH 3/3] aio_free_ring: don't do page_count(NULL) Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-17 18:26   ` Jeff Moyer
2015-06-17  0:39 ` [PATCH 0/3] aio: ctx->dead cleanups Al Viro
2015-06-17  0:50   ` Al Viro
2015-06-17  1:22     ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-18 16:08       ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-17  1:05   ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-17  1:14     ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-17  1:32       ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]

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