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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: "Andy Lutomirski" <luto@kernel.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@us.ibm.com>,
	"X86 ML" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Frédéric Weisbecker" <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	"Rik van Riel" <riel@redhat.com>,
	"Oleg Nesterov" <oleg@redhat.com>,
	"Denys Vlasenko" <vda.linux@googlemail.com>,
	"Borislav Petkov" <bp@alien8.de>,
	"Kees Cook" <keescook@chromium.org>,
	"Brian Gerst" <brgerst@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC/INCOMPLETE 01/13] context_tracking: Add context_tracking_assert_state
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 11:57:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150618095719.GA4528@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrVsyZYS-aC_+Jp9cQb8aQQk7wapfKwVeweSbaWUF7gUPQ@mail.gmail.com>


* Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 2:41 AM, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > * Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> >> This will let us sprinkle sanity checks around the kernel without
> >> making too much of a mess.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
> >> ---
> >>  include/linux/context_tracking.h | 8 ++++++++
> >>  1 file changed, 8 insertions(+)
> >>
> >> diff --git a/include/linux/context_tracking.h b/include/linux/context_tracking.h
> >> index 2821838256b4..0fbea4b152e1 100644
> >> --- a/include/linux/context_tracking.h
> >> +++ b/include/linux/context_tracking.h
> >> @@ -57,6 +57,13 @@ static inline void context_tracking_task_switch(struct task_struct *prev,
> >>       if (context_tracking_is_enabled())
> >>               __context_tracking_task_switch(prev, next);
> >>  }
> >> +
> >> +static inline void context_tracking_assert_state(enum ctx_state state)
> >> +{
> >> +     rcu_lockdep_assert(!context_tracking_is_enabled() ||
> >> +                        this_cpu_read(context_tracking.state) == state,
> >> +                        "context tracking state was wrong");
> >> +}
> >
> > Please don't introduce assert() style debug check interfaces!
> >
> > (And RCU should be fixed too I suspect.)
> >
> > They are absolutely horrible on the brain when mixed with WARN_ON() interfaces,
> > which are the dominant runtime check interface in the kernel.
> >
> > Instead make it something like:
> >
> >   #define ct_state() (this_cpu_read(context_tracking.state))
> >
> >   #define CT_WARN_ON(cond) \
> >         WARN_ON(context_tracking_is_enabled() && (cond))
> >
> > and then the debug checks can be written as:
> >
> >         CT_WARN_ON(ct_state() != CONTEXT_KERNEL);
> >
> > This is IMHO _far_ more readable than:
> >
> >         context_tracking_assert_state(CONTEXT_KERNEL);
> >
> > ok?
> >
> > (Assuming people will accept 'ct/CT' as an abbreviation for context tracking.)
> 
> Hmm, ok I guess.  The part I don't like is having ct_state() at all on
> non-context-tracking kernels -- it seems like it's asking for trouble.

Well:

 - if # CONFIG_CONTEXT_TRACKING is not se, then CT_WARN_ON() does nothing.

 - if CONFIG_CONTEXT_TRACKING=y, but !context_tracking_is_enabled(), then 
   CT_WARN_ON() will evaluate 'cond', but won't calculate it.

 - only if CONFIG_CONTEXT_TRACKING=y && context_tracking_is_enabled() should we 
   get as far as ct_state() evaluation.

so I'm not sure I see the problem you are seeing.

> We could make CT_WARN_ON not even evaluate its argument if 
> !CONFIG_CONTEXT_TRACKING, but then we still have ct_state() returning garbage if 
> !context_tracking_is_enabled().

My understanding is that if !context_tracking_is_enabled() then the compiler 
should not even try to evaluate the rest. This is why doing a NULL pointer check 
like this is safe:

  if (tsk && tsk->field) {
	...
  }

> The assert macro avoids all these problems despite being a bit ugly.

but writing good kernel code is all about not being ugly...

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-18  9:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-16 20:16 [RFC/INCOMPLETE 00/13] x86: Rewrite exit-to-userspace code Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-16 20:16 ` [RFC/INCOMPLETE 01/13] context_tracking: Add context_tracking_assert_state Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-17  9:41   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-17 14:15     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-18  9:57       ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2015-06-18 11:07         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-18 15:52           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-18 16:17             ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-18 16:26               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-06-18 19:26                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-17 15:27     ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-18  9:59       ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-18 22:54         ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-19  2:19           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-30 11:04           ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-30 16:16             ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-16 20:16 ` [RFC/INCOMPLETE 02/13] notifiers: Assert that RCU is watching in notify_die Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-16 20:16 ` [RFC/INCOMPLETE 03/13] x86: Move C entry and exit code to arch/x86/entry/common.c Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-16 20:16 ` [RFC/INCOMPLETE 04/13] x86/traps: Assert that we're in CONTEXT_KERNEL in exception entries Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-16 20:16 ` [RFC/INCOMPLETE 05/13] x86/entry: Add enter_from_user_mode and use it in syscalls Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-16 20:16 ` [RFC/INCOMPLETE 06/13] x86/entry: Add new, comprehensible entry and exit hooks Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-16 20:16 ` [RFC/INCOMPLETE 07/13] x86/entry/64: Really create an error-entry-from-usermode code path Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-16 20:16 ` [RFC/INCOMPLETE 08/13] x86/entry/64: Migrate 64-bit syscalls to new exit hooks Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-17 10:00   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-17 10:02     ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-17 14:12       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-18 10:17         ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-18 10:19           ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-16 20:16 ` [RFC/INCOMPLETE 09/13] x86/entry/compat: Migrate compat " Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-16 20:16 ` [RFC/INCOMPLETE 10/13] x86/asm/entry/64: Save all regs on interrupt entry Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-16 20:16 ` [RFC/INCOMPLETE 11/13] x86/asm/entry/64: Simplify irq stack pt_regs handling Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-16 20:16 ` [RFC/INCOMPLETE 12/13] x86/asm/entry/64: Migrate error and interrupt exit work to C Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-16 20:16 ` [RFC/INCOMPLETE 13/13] x86/entry: Remove SCHEDULE_USER and asm/context-tracking.h Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-17  9:48 ` [RFC/INCOMPLETE 00/13] x86: Rewrite exit-to-userspace code Ingo Molnar
2015-06-17 10:13   ` Richard Weinberger
2015-06-17 11:04     ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-17 14:19     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-17 15:16   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-18 10:14     ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-17 10:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-17 11:14   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-17 14:23   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-18 10:11     ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-18 11:06       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-18 16:24         ` Ingo Molnar

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