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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Dave Hansen <dave@sr71.net>, Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	jack@suse.cz, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, eparis@redhat.com,
	john@johnmccutchan.com, rlove@rlove.org,
	tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] fs: optimize inotify/fsnotify code for unwatched files
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 17:29:59 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150623002959.GE3892@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150622185229.GX3644@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 08:52:29PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 08:11:21AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > That depends on how slow the resulting slow global state would be.
> > We have some use cases (definitely KVM, perhaps also some of the VFS
> > code) that need the current speed, as opposed to the profound slowness
> > that three trips through synchronize_sched() would provide.
> 
> So what we have with that percpu-rwsem code that I send out earlier
> today is a conditional smp_mb(), and I think we can do the same for
> SRCU.
> 
> I'm just not sure !GP is common enough for all SRCU cases to be worth
> doing.

Especially given that we don't want the readers to have to acquire a
lock in order to get a consistent view of whether or not a grace period
is in progress.

> Those that rely on sync_srcu() and who do it rarely would definitely
> benefit. The same with those that rarely do call_srcu().
> 
> But those that heavily use call_srcu() would be better off with the
> prolonged GP with 3 sync_sched() calls in.

Those are indeed two likely possibilities.  Other possibilities include
cases where synchronize_srcu() is invoked rarely, but where its latency
is visible to userspace, and those where there really is a need to
wait synchronously for a grace period, so that call_srcu() doesn't buy
you anything.

							Thanx, Paul

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-23  0:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-19 21:50 [RFC][PATCH] fs: optimize inotify/fsnotify code for unwatched files Dave Hansen
2015-06-19 23:33 ` Andi Kleen
2015-06-20  0:29   ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-20  0:39   ` Dave Hansen
2015-06-20  2:21     ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-20 18:02       ` Dave Hansen
2015-06-21  1:30         ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-22 13:28           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-22 15:11             ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-22 15:20               ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-22 16:29                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-22 19:03                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-23  0:31                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-22 18:50               ` Dave Hansen
2015-06-23  0:26                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-24 16:50                   ` Dave Hansen
2015-06-24 17:29                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-22 18:52               ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-23  0:29                 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2015-06-23 15:17 ` Jan Kara

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