From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Martin Steigerwald <martin@lichtvoll.de>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@gmail.com>,
Djalal Harouni <tixxdz@opendz.org>,
Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Havoc Pennington <havoc.pennington@gmail.com>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Tom Gundersen <teg@jklm.no>, Daniel Mack <daniel@zonque.org>
Subject: Re: kdbus: to merge or not to merge?
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 15:27:05 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150624132705.GA8267@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6798439.9m13YiNnBb@merkaba>
* Martin Steigerwald <martin@lichtvoll.de> wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, 24. Juni 2015, 10:05:02 schrieb Ingo Molnar:
> > Not because I like it so much, but because I think the merge process
> > should be stripped of politics and emotion as much as possible: if an
> > initial submission is good and addresses all technical review properly,
> > and if the cost to the core kernel is low, then barring alternative,
> > fully equivalent and superior patch submissions, rejecting it does more
> > harm than good.
>
> Now that is an interesting challenge.
>
> As I realize more and more we are all feeling beings.
>
> Linus himself according to his own words as I received them wants to make
> perfectly sure that the developer who receives a message from him exactly
> knows how he feels, especially when he disagrees with a pull request and
> does not want to take it.
So that twists what I said: how 'I feel about a pull request' is a technical term
for: 'what is my subjective but rational technological opinion' about it.
That's not an invitation to be irrationally emotional. (I'm reasonably sure that's
what Linus meant there too, but I don't speak for him.)
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-06-24 13:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-06-23 6:06 kdbus: to merge or not to merge? Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-23 6:31 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-23 6:41 ` Greg KH
2015-06-23 7:22 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-06-23 9:25 ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-06-23 9:38 ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-06-23 15:07 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-25 2:14 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-06-25 2:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-06-25 6:01 ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-06-25 6:05 ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-06-25 13:34 ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-06-25 14:03 ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-06-23 9:12 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-07-08 13:54 ` Pavel Machek
2015-07-09 8:39 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-07-09 10:29 ` Joe Perches
2015-07-09 10:57 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-07-09 11:36 ` Pavel Machek
2015-06-23 23:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-06-24 0:52 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-24 8:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-24 10:41 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-06-24 10:46 ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-06-24 13:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-24 17:39 ` David Lang
2015-06-24 18:41 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-06-24 18:50 ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-06-24 19:12 ` David Lang
2015-06-25 7:57 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-06-25 15:26 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-06-25 6:31 ` Greg KH
2015-06-25 6:48 ` David Lang
2015-06-25 7:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-25 7:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-24 11:43 ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-06-24 13:27 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2015-06-24 9:55 ` Alexander Larsson
2015-06-24 14:38 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CAHr-LrYWNwv6_YLoP-B3duQ1QsjPiTiaEnjBQ7j2brPMeTgA3A@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <CALCETrW3F6YP_H1oRJa47f1DT7B35OubhJYSnq0U-_GmFQHNOA@mail.gmail.com>
2015-06-24 17:11 ` Alexander Larsson
2015-06-24 19:43 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-24 20:45 ` Alexander Larsson
2015-08-03 23:02 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-04 8:58 ` David Herrmann
2015-08-04 13:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-08-04 14:09 ` David Herrmann
2015-08-04 14:47 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-05 0:18 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-06 7:06 ` Daniel Mack
2015-08-06 15:27 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-06 17:24 ` Daniel Mack
2015-08-05 7:10 ` David Herrmann
2015-08-05 20:11 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-06 8:04 ` David Herrmann
2015-08-06 8:25 ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-08-06 15:21 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-06 18:14 ` Daniel Mack
2015-08-06 18:43 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-07 14:40 ` Daniel Mack
2015-08-07 15:09 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CA+55aFxDLt-5+=xXeYG4nJKMb8L_iD9FmwTZ2VuughBku-mW3g@mail.gmail.com>
2015-08-09 19:00 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-08-09 22:11 ` Daniel Mack
2015-08-10 2:10 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-10 17:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-08-10 2:48 ` David Lang
2015-08-07 15:37 ` cee1
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-07-01 0:03 Kalle A. Sandstrom
2015-07-01 16:51 ` David Herrmann
2015-07-06 21:18 ` Kalle A. Sandstrom
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