From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: David Lang <david@lang.hm>
Cc: Martin Steigerwald <martin@lichtvoll.de>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@gmail.com>,
Djalal Harouni <tixxdz@opendz.org>,
Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Havoc Pennington <havoc.pennington@gmail.com>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Tom Gundersen <teg@jklm.no>, Daniel Mack <daniel@zonque.org>
Subject: Re: kdbus: to merge or not to merge?
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 09:51:50 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150625075150.GA17367@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150625074722.GB15616@gmail.com>
* Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> * David Lang <david@lang.hm> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 24 Jun 2015, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> >
> > > And the thing is, in hindsight, after such huge flamewars, years down the
> > > line, almost never do I see the following question asked: 'what were we
> > > thinking merging that crap??'. If any question arises it's usually along the
> > > lines of: 'what was the big fuss about?'. So I think by and large the process
> > > works.
> >
> > counterexamples, devfs, tux
>
> Actually, we never merged the Tux web server upstream, and the devfs concept has
> kind of made a comeback via devtmpfs.
Bits of devfs also live on in sysfs. So devfs wasn't a bad initial idea IMHO, but
we had to do one more (incompatible ...) iteration to figure out why we didn't
like it.
Furthermore, I'm pretty sure there's a snowball's chance in hell that we'd have
ended up with the current pretty cleaned up hardware/system ABI _without_ devfs.
So it was a necessary pain.
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-06-25 7:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-06-23 6:06 kdbus: to merge or not to merge? Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-23 6:31 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-23 6:41 ` Greg KH
2015-06-23 7:22 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-06-23 9:25 ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-06-23 9:38 ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-06-23 15:07 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-25 2:14 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-06-25 2:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-06-25 6:01 ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-06-25 6:05 ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-06-25 13:34 ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-06-25 14:03 ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-06-23 9:12 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-07-08 13:54 ` Pavel Machek
2015-07-09 8:39 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-07-09 10:29 ` Joe Perches
2015-07-09 10:57 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-07-09 11:36 ` Pavel Machek
2015-06-23 23:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-06-24 0:52 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-24 8:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-24 10:41 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-06-24 10:46 ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-06-24 13:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-24 17:39 ` David Lang
2015-06-24 18:41 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-06-24 18:50 ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-06-24 19:12 ` David Lang
2015-06-25 7:57 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-06-25 15:26 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-06-25 6:31 ` Greg KH
2015-06-25 6:48 ` David Lang
2015-06-25 7:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-25 7:51 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2015-06-24 11:43 ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-06-24 13:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-24 9:55 ` Alexander Larsson
2015-06-24 14:38 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CAHr-LrYWNwv6_YLoP-B3duQ1QsjPiTiaEnjBQ7j2brPMeTgA3A@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <CALCETrW3F6YP_H1oRJa47f1DT7B35OubhJYSnq0U-_GmFQHNOA@mail.gmail.com>
2015-06-24 17:11 ` Alexander Larsson
2015-06-24 19:43 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-24 20:45 ` Alexander Larsson
2015-08-03 23:02 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-04 8:58 ` David Herrmann
2015-08-04 13:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-08-04 14:09 ` David Herrmann
2015-08-04 14:47 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-05 0:18 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-06 7:06 ` Daniel Mack
2015-08-06 15:27 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-06 17:24 ` Daniel Mack
2015-08-05 7:10 ` David Herrmann
2015-08-05 20:11 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-06 8:04 ` David Herrmann
2015-08-06 8:25 ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-08-06 15:21 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-06 18:14 ` Daniel Mack
2015-08-06 18:43 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-07 14:40 ` Daniel Mack
2015-08-07 15:09 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CA+55aFxDLt-5+=xXeYG4nJKMb8L_iD9FmwTZ2VuughBku-mW3g@mail.gmail.com>
2015-08-09 19:00 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-08-09 22:11 ` Daniel Mack
2015-08-10 2:10 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-10 17:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-08-10 2:48 ` David Lang
2015-08-07 15:37 ` cee1
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-07-01 0:03 Kalle A. Sandstrom
2015-07-01 16:51 ` David Herrmann
2015-07-06 21:18 ` Kalle A. Sandstrom
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