From: Yuyang Du <yuyang.du@intel.com>
To: Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>
Cc: Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Rabin Vincent <rabin.vincent@axis.com>,
"mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>, Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH?] Livelock in pick_next_task_fair() / idle_balance()
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 06:34:02 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150709223402.GH5197@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150709135314.GA8668@e105550-lin.cambridge.arm.com>
On Thu, Jul 09, 2015 at 02:53:14PM +0100, Morten Rasmussen wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 06, 2015 at 04:12:41AM +0800, Yuyang Du wrote:
> > Hi Morten,
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 03, 2015 at 10:34:41AM +0100, Morten Rasmussen wrote:
> > > > > IOW, since task groups include blocked load in the load_avg_contrib (see
> > > > > __update_group_entity_contrib() and __update_cfs_rq_tg_load_contrib()) the
> > > > > imbalance includes blocked load and hence env->imbalance >=
> > > > > sum(task_h_load(p)) for all tasks p on the rq. Which leads to
> > > > > detach_tasks() emptying the rq completely in the reported scenario where
> > > > > blocked load > runnable load.
> > > >
> > > > Whenever I want to know the load avg concerning task group, I need to
> > > > walk through the complete codes again, I prefer not to do it this time.
> > > > But it should not be that simply to say "the 118 comes from the blocked load".
> > >
> > > But the whole hierarchy of group entities is updated each time we enqueue
> > > or dequeue a task. I don't see how the group entity load_avg_contrib is
> > > not up to date? Why do you need to update it again?
> > >
> > > In any case, we have one task in the group hierarchy which has a
> > > load_avg_contrib of 0 and the grand-grand parent group entity has a
> > > load_avg_contrib of 118 and no additional tasks. That load contribution
> > > must be from tasks which are no longer around on the rq? No?
> >
> > load_avg_contrib has WEIGHT inside, so the most I can say is:
> > SE: 8f456e00's load_avg_contrib 118 = (its cfs_rq's runnable + blocked) / (tg->load_avg + 1) * tg->shares
> >
> > The tg->shares is probably 1024 (at least 911). So we are just left with:
> >
> > cfs_rq / tg = 11.5%
>
> Yes, we also know that there is only one runnable task in the task group
> hierarchy and its contribution is 0. Hence the rest must be from
> non-runnable tasks belonging to some child group.
Agreed.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-07-10 6:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-06-30 14:30 [PATCH?] Livelock in pick_next_task_fair() / idle_balance() Rabin Vincent
2015-07-01 5:36 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-07-01 14:55 ` Rabin Vincent
2015-07-01 15:47 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-07-01 20:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-01 23:25 ` Yuyang Du
2015-07-02 8:05 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-07-02 1:05 ` Yuyang Du
2015-07-02 10:25 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-07-02 11:40 ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-07-02 19:37 ` Yuyang Du
2015-07-03 9:34 ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-07-03 16:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-05 22:31 ` Yuyang Du
2015-07-09 14:32 ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-07-09 23:24 ` Yuyang Du
2015-07-05 20:12 ` Yuyang Du
2015-07-06 17:36 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2015-07-07 11:17 ` Rabin Vincent
2015-07-13 17:43 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2015-07-09 13:53 ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-07-09 22:34 ` Yuyang Du [this message]
2015-07-02 10:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-02 11:44 ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-07-02 18:42 ` Yuyang Du
2015-07-03 4:42 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-07-03 16:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-05 22:11 ` Yuyang Du
2015-07-09 6:15 ` Stefan Ekenberg
2015-07-26 18:57 ` Yuyang Du
2015-08-03 17:05 ` [tip:sched/core] sched/fair: Avoid pulling all tasks in idle balancing tip-bot for Yuyang Du
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