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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/5] kmod: Use system_unbound_wq instead of khelper
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 00:44:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150709224406.GA17528@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1436465237-22031-3-git-send-email-fweisbec@gmail.com>

On 07/09, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
>
> We need to launch the usermodehelper kernel threads with the widest
> affinity and this is why we have khelper for. This workqueue has unbound
> properties and thus a wide affinity inherited by all its children.
>
> Now khelper also has special properties that we aren't much interested
> in: ordered and singlethread. There is really no need about ordering as
> all we do is creating kernel threads. This can be done concurrently.
> And singlethread is a useless limitation as well.
>
> The workqueue engine already proposes generic unbound workqueues that
> don't share these useless properties and handle well parallel jobs.
>
> Lets just use them.
>
> Suggested-by: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>

Well yes, but it seems that you missed another part of my email ;)

If we just change usermodehelper to use system_unbound_wq then we
probably should keep set_cpus_allowed_ptr() removed by 4/5.

Note that system_unbound_wq has ->no_numa == F, so its worker threads
are NUMA bound. Perhaps this is not that bad, I do not know. But at
least this means that 4/5 needs more documentation/justification.

But as for this particular patch I obviously like it, khelper_wq
must die imo ;)

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-09 22:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-09 18:07 [PATCH 0/5] kmod: Simplifications and cleanups v2 Frederic Weisbecker
2015-07-09 18:07 ` [PATCH 1/5] kmod: Bunch of internal functions renames Frederic Weisbecker
2015-07-09 18:07 ` [PATCH 2/5] kmod: Use system_unbound_wq instead of khelper Frederic Weisbecker
2015-07-09 22:44   ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2015-07-10 13:47     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-07-10 14:20       ` Christoph Lameter
2015-07-10 17:12         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-07-10 17:52           ` Christoph Lameter
2015-07-10 18:10             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-07-10 19:05               ` Christoph Lameter
2015-07-14 14:04                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-07-09 18:07 ` [PATCH 3/5] kmod: Add up-to-date explanations on the purpose of each asynchronous levels Frederic Weisbecker
2015-07-09 18:07 ` [PATCH 4/5] kmod: Remove unecessary explicit wide CPU affinity setting Frederic Weisbecker
2015-07-09 18:07 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] kmod: Handle UMH_WAIT_PROC from system unbound workqueue Frederic Weisbecker
2015-07-09 22:51   ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-07-10 13:57     ` Frederic Weisbecker

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