From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, c++std-parallel@accu.org,
linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, gcc@gcc.gnu.org
Cc: Peter.Sewell@cl.cam.ac.uk, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
Mark.Batty@cl.cam.ac.uk, peterz@infradead.org,
will.deacon@arm.com, Ramana.Radhakrishnan@arm.com,
dhowells@redhat.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org, mingo@kernel.org,
michaelw@ca.ibm.com
Subject: Re: Compilers and RCU readers: Once more unto the breach!
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 17:44:59 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150714004459.GA3090@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150520005510.GA23559@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 05:55:10PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> Hello!
>
> Following up on last year's discussion (https://lwn.net/Articles/586838/,
> https://lwn.net/Articles/588300/), I believe that we have a solution. If
> I am wrong, I am sure you all will let me know, and in great detail. ;-)
>
> The key simplification is to "just say no" to RCU-protected array indexes:
> https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/5/12/827, as was suggested by several people.
> This simplification means that rcu_dereference (AKA memory_order_consume)
> need only return pointers. This in ture avoids things like (x-x),
> (x*0), and (x%1) because if "x" is a pointer, these expressions either
> return non-pointers are compilation errors. With a very few exceptions,
> dependency chains can lead -to- non-pointers, but cannot pass -through-
> them.
>
> The result is that dependencies are carried only by operations for
> which the compiler cannot easily optimize the away those dependencies,
> these operations including simple assignment, integer offset (including
> indexing), dereferencing, casts, passing as a function argument, return
> values from functions and so on. A complete list with commentary starts
> on page 28 of:
>
> http://www.rdrop.com/users/paulmck/RCU/consume.2015.05.18a.pdf
And an update is available here:
http://www.rdrop.com/users/paulmck/RCU/consume.2015.07.13a.pdf
Among other things, this update addresses the points about equality
comparisons introduced by the compiler, and outlines some of the
issues head-/tail-marked alternatives face with respect to abstraction.
The updated "Restricted Dependency Chains" section starts on page 28.
Thoughts?
Thanx, Paul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-07-14 0:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-05-20 0:55 Compilers and RCU readers: Once more unto the breach! Paul E. McKenney
2015-05-20 1:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-20 2:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-20 2:41 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-05-20 11:47 ` Will Deacon
2015-05-20 12:15 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-05-20 15:46 ` Will Deacon
2015-05-20 15:54 ` Andrew Haley
2015-05-20 18:16 ` [c++std-parallel-1632] " Paul E. McKenney
2015-05-21 14:22 ` Michael Matz
2015-05-21 15:10 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-05-21 16:17 ` Michael Matz
2015-05-21 18:37 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-05-20 18:16 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-05-21 19:24 ` Will Deacon
2015-05-21 20:02 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-05-21 20:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-21 22:02 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-05-22 6:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-22 10:43 ` Richard Kenner
2015-05-22 13:11 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-05-22 13:12 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-05-26 17:37 ` [c++std-parallel-1641] " Torvald Riegel
2015-05-22 17:30 ` Will Deacon
2015-05-22 18:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-05-20 13:18 ` David Howells
2015-05-20 13:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-05-20 13:37 ` David Howells
2015-05-20 13:44 ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2015-05-20 14:03 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-05-20 14:15 ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2015-05-20 15:12 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-05-20 15:46 ` David Howells
2015-05-20 14:02 ` [c++std-parallel-1624] " Paul E. McKenney
2015-05-20 2:34 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-05-20 7:34 ` [c++std-parallel-1614] " Jens Maurer
2015-05-20 9:03 ` Richard Biener
2015-05-20 12:02 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-05-20 12:01 ` [c++std-parallel-1616] " Paul E. McKenney
2015-05-26 17:08 ` [c++std-parallel-1611] " Torvald Riegel
2015-05-27 1:41 ` [c++std-parallel-1651] " Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-14 0:44 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2015-09-22 17:00 ` Paul E. McKenney
[not found] ` <CAPUmR1aqV_cQWjE8qC9x2sfmW-1ocKKMtCgNbjZH0cJ-AO2WTg@mail.gmail.com>
2015-09-23 23:26 ` [c++std-parallel-2008] " Paul E. McKenney
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