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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Daniel Wagner <daniel.wagner@bmw-carit.de>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/7] rcu: Create rcu_sync infrastructure
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 20:15:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150715181511.GT19282@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150715180546.GJ3717@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 11:05:46AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 01:35:48AM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > It is functionally equivalent to
> > 
> >         struct rcu_sync_struct {
> >                 atomic_t counter;
> >         };
> > 
> >         static inline bool rcu_sync_is_idle(struct rcu_sync_struct *rss)
> >         {
> 
> If you add an smp_mb() here...
> 
> >                 return atomic_read(&rss->counter) == 0;
> >         }
> > 
> >         static inline void rcu_sync_enter(struct rcu_sync_struct *rss)
> >         {
> >                 atomic_inc(&rss->counter);
> >                 synchronize_sched();
> >         }
> > 
> >         static inline void rcu_sync_exit(struct rcu_sync_struct *rss)
> >         {
> >                 synchronize_sched();
> 
> You should be able to demote the above synchronize_sched() to an
> smp_mb__before_atomic().  Even rare writes should make this tradeoff
> worthwhile.

No, it makes the read-side primitive contain an unconditional memory
barrier, that forgoes the entire point.

The writers are stupidly expensive already for they need global
serialization, optimizing them in any way doesn't make sense.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-15 18:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-11 23:35 [PATCH 0/7] Add rcu_sync infrastructure to avoid _expedited() in percpu-rwsem Oleg Nesterov
2015-07-11 23:35 ` [PATCH 1/7] rcu: Create rcu_sync infrastructure Oleg Nesterov
2015-07-15 18:05   ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-15 18:15     ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2015-07-15 18:28       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-15 19:08         ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-07-15 19:15           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-15 18:41     ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-07-11 23:35 ` [PATCH 2/7] rcusync: Introduce struct rcu_sync_ops Oleg Nesterov
2015-07-11 23:35 ` [PATCH 3/7] rcusync: Add the CONFIG_PROVE_RCU checks Oleg Nesterov
2015-07-11 23:35 ` [PATCH 4/7] rcusync: Introduce rcu_sync_dtor() Oleg Nesterov
2015-07-11 23:36 ` [PATCH 5/7] percpu-rwsem: change it to rely on rss_sync infrastructure Oleg Nesterov
2015-07-15 18:15   ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-15 18:59     ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-07-11 23:36 ` [PATCH 6/7] percpu-rwsem: fix the comments outdated by rcu_sync Oleg Nesterov
2015-07-11 23:36 ` [PATCH 7/7] percpu-rwsem: cleanup the lockdep annotations in percpu_down_read() Oleg Nesterov
2015-07-11 23:47 ` [PATCH 0/7] Add rcu_sync infrastructure to avoid _expedited() in percpu-rwsem Linus Torvalds
2015-07-15 18:27 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-15 19:36   ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-07-15 21:59     ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-17 23:29       ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-07-17 23:47         ` Paul E. McKenney

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