From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Michal Marek <mmarek@suse.cz>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com>,
X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
live-patching@vger.kernel.org,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 13/21] x86/asm/crypto: Fix frame pointer usage in aesni-intel_asm.S
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 19:21:24 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150720172124.GA13344@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150720135930.GB7326@treble.redhat.com>
* Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 09:56:11AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > >
> > > The reason I suggested to put FRAME in the macro name is to try to prevent it
> > > from being accidentally used for leaf functions, where it isn't needed.
> >
> > Well, we could use LEAF_FUNCTION to mark that fact.
> >
> > Wether a function written in assembly is a leaf function or not is a higher level
> > (and thus more valuable) piece of information whether we generate frame pointer
> > debuginfo or not.
> >
> > > Also the naming of FUNCTION_ENTRY and FUNCTION_RETURN doesn't do anything to
> > > distinguish them from the already ubiquitous ENTRY and ENDPROC. So as a kernel
> > > developer it seems confusing to me, e.g. how do I remember when to use
> > > FUNCTION_ENTRY vs ENTRY?
> >
> > 'ENDPROC' is really leftover from older debuginfo cruft, it's not a valuable
> > construct IMHO, even if it's (sadly) ubiquitious.
> >
> > We want to create new, clean, as minimal as possible and as clearly named as
> > possible debuginfo constructs from first principles.
>
> Ok. So if I understand right, the proposal is:
>
> Replace *all* x86 usage of ENTRY/ENDPROC with either:
>
> FUNCTION_ENTRY(func)
> FUNCTION_RETURN(func)
>
> or
>
> LEAF_FUNCTION_ENTRY(func)
> LEAF_FUNCTION_RETURN(func)
>
> Those sound fine to me.
Yeah - but keep the old constructs as well and don't necessarily do the full
migration straight away, only once the dust has settled - to reduce churn.
> I should point out that there are still a few cases where the more granular
> FRAME/ENDFRAME and ENTRY/ENDPROC macros would still be needed.
>
> For example, if the function ends with a jump instead of a ret. If the
> jump is a sibling call, the code would look like:
>
> FUNCTION_ENTRY(func)
> ...
> ENDFRAME
> jmp another_func
> ENDPROC(func)
>
>
> Or if it's a jump within the function to an internal ret:
>
> FUNCTION_ENTRY(func)
> ...
> 1: ...
> ENDFRAME
> ret
> 2: ...
> jmp 1b
> ENDPROC(func)
>
>
> Or if it jumps to some shared code before returning:
>
> FUNCTION_ENTRY(func_1)
> ...
> jmp common_return
> ENDPROC(func_1)
>
> FUNCTION_ENTRY(func_2)
> ...
> jmp common_return
> ENDPROC(func_2)
>
> common_return:
> ...
> ENDFRAME
> ret
>
>
> So in some cases we'd still need the more granular macros, unless we
> decided to make special macros for these cases as well.
Ok, I see how the naming scheme I proposed won't work with all that very well, but
I'd still suggest using consistently named patterns.
Let me suggest yet another approach. How about open-coding something like this:
FUNCTION_START(func)
push_bp
mov_sp_bp
...
pop_bp
ret
FUNCTION_END(func)
This is just two easy things:
- a redefine of the FUNCTION_ENTRY and ENDPROC names
- the introduction of three quasi-mnemonics: push_bp, mov_sp_bp, pop_bp - which
all look very similar to a real frame setup sequence, except that we can easily
make them go away in the !CONFIG_FRAME_POINTERS case.
The advantage of this approach would be:
- it looks pretty 'natural' and very close to how the real disassembly looks
like in CONFIG_FRAME_POINTERS=y kernels. So while it's not as compact as some
of the other variants, it's close to what the real instruction sequence looks
like and that is a positive quality in itself.
- it also makes it apparent 'on sight' that it's probably a bug to have
unbalanced push/pop sequences in a regular function, to any reasonably alert
assembly coder.
- if we ever unsupport framepointer kernels in the (far far) future, we can get
rid of all lines with those 3 mnemonics and be done with it.
- it's finegrained enough so that we can express all the special function/tail
variants you listed above.
What do you think?
I'd still keep existing frame setup functionality and names and only use these in
fixes, new code and new annotations - and do a full rename and cleanup once the
dust has settled.
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-07-20 17:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-07-14 17:14 [PATCH v7 0/4] Compile-time stack validation Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-14 17:14 ` [PATCH v7 1/4] x86/asm: Frame pointer macro cleanup Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-14 17:14 ` [PATCH v7 2/4] x86/stackvalidate: Compile-time stack validation Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-14 20:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-14 21:11 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-14 21:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-14 21:30 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-14 21:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-14 22:32 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-20 16:53 ` Namhyung Kim
2015-07-20 17:50 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-21 8:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-07-21 12:04 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-21 8:42 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2015-07-21 12:06 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-14 17:14 ` [PATCH v7 3/4] x86/stackvalidate: Add file and directory ignores Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-14 17:14 ` [PATCH v7 4/4] x86/stackvalidate: Add ignore macros Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-14 17:25 ` [PATCH v7 0/4] Compile-time stack validation Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-15 10:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-07-15 16:05 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-17 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH 00/21] x86: Proposed fixes for stackvalidate warnings Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-17 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH 01/21] stackvalidate: Process ignores earlier and add more ignore checks Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-17 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH 02/21] stackvalidate: Add C version of STACKVALIDATE_IGNORE_INSN Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-18 14:56 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-07-18 16:00 ` Josh Poimboeuf
[not found] ` <CA+55aFyoO75n-mQBrB_YBLx9yNpAjisFAqkO8+YsphD-xmgY+w@mail.gmail.com>
2015-07-18 16:40 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-17 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH 03/21] x86/asm: Add C versions of FRAME and ENDFRAME macros Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-17 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH 04/21] x86/hweight: Add stack frame dependency for __arch_hweight*() Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-17 17:17 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-07-17 17:32 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-18 5:05 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-07-18 13:44 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-18 14:56 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-07-18 15:57 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-19 4:12 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-07-22 0:13 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-22 4:25 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-07-22 4:39 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-22 4:45 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-07-17 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH 05/21] x86/xen: Add stack frame dependency to hypercall inline asm calls Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-17 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH 06/21] x86/paravirt: Add stack frame dependency to PVOP " Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-17 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH 07/21] x86/paravirt: Fix frame pointer usage in PV_CALLEE_SAVE_REGS_THUNK Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-17 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH 08/21] x86/paravirt: Align paravirt thunk functions at 16-byte boundaries Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-17 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH 09/21] x86/amd: Set ELF function type for vide() Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-17 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH 10/21] x86/reboot: Add ljmp instructions to stackvalidate whitelist Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-17 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH 11/21] x86/xen: Add xen_cpuid() and xen_setup_gdt() to stackvalidate whitelists Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-17 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH 12/21] sched: Add __schedule() to stackvalidate whitelist Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-17 19:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-17 19:58 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-17 21:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-17 21:23 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-18 3:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-07-17 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH 13/21] x86/asm/crypto: Fix frame pointer usage in aesni-intel_asm.S Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-17 19:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-07-17 19:44 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-17 20:37 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-17 20:39 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-17 20:44 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-17 20:46 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-17 20:59 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-17 21:01 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-17 21:10 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-18 8:42 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-07-18 13:46 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-18 14:25 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-07-18 15:40 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-18 2:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-07-18 3:56 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-20 7:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-07-20 13:59 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-20 17:21 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2015-07-20 18:00 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-22 11:52 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-20 15:30 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-20 16:36 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-20 16:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-20 17:19 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-21 8:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-07-21 12:06 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-17 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH 14/21] x86/asm/crypto: Move .Lbswap_mask data to .rodata section Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-17 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH 15/21] x86/asm/crypto: Move jump_table " Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-17 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH 16/21] x86/asm/crypto: Fix frame pointer usage in clmul_ghash_mul/update() Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-17 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH 17/21] x86/asm/entry: Fix frame pointer usage in thunk functions Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-17 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH 18/21] x86/asm/acpi: Fix frame pointer usage in do_suspend_lowlevel() Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-17 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH 19/21] x86/asm: Fix frame pointer usage in rwsem functions Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-17 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH 20/21] x86/asm/efi: Fix frame pointer usage in efi_call() Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-17 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH 21/21] x86/asm/power: Fix frame pointer usage in hibernate_asm_64.S Josh Poimboeuf
2015-07-17 18:56 ` [RFC PATCH 00/21] x86: Proposed fixes for stackvalidate warnings Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-18 3:05 ` Ingo Molnar
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-07-18 21:02 [RFC PATCH 13/21] x86/asm/crypto: Fix frame pointer usage in aesni-intel_asm.S Gustavo da Silva
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