From: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Brian Gerst <brgerst@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Dealing with the NMI mess
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 22:52:07 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150723205207.GA3052@1wt.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFwR8mHw=wm+Uecy0ERgrD7WbijBn9kj_ZAd47L4GyG5Xw@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 01:38:33PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> wrote:
> >
> > 2. Forbid IRET inside NMIs. Doable but maybe not that pretty.
> >
> > We haven't considered:
> >
> > 3. Forbid faults (other than MCE) inside NMI.
>
> I'd really prefer #2. #3 depends on us getting many things right, and
> never introducing new cases in the future.
>
> #2, in contrast, seems to be fairly localized. Yes, RF is an issue,
> but returning to user space with RF clear doesn't really seem to be
> all that problematic.
What's the worst case that can happen with RF cleared when returing
to user space ? My understanding is that it's just that we risk to
break again on an instruction that had a break point set and which
already triggered the breakpoint, right ?
If so the problem probably is whether there's a risk of looping again
without ever getting a chance to execute this instruction normally.
But if the NMIs don't bomb as fast as we can process them, at some
point the instruction should get a chance to be executed, so the
problem doesn't seem dramatic.
That makes me think that I have no idea what happens if we try to
step-trace "int 2", I don't even know if we pass through the NMI
handler.
Willy
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-07-23 20:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-07-23 20:21 Dealing with the NMI mess Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-23 20:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-07-23 20:49 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-23 21:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-07-23 21:31 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-23 21:46 ` Willy Tarreau
2015-07-23 21:46 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-23 21:50 ` Willy Tarreau
2015-07-23 21:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-07-23 21:50 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-23 21:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-07-24 8:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-24 9:02 ` Willy Tarreau
2015-07-24 11:58 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-24 12:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-24 13:03 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-24 13:21 ` Willy Tarreau
2015-07-24 13:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-24 13:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-24 14:31 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-24 14:59 ` Willy Tarreau
2015-07-24 15:16 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-24 15:26 ` Willy Tarreau
2015-07-24 15:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-24 15:33 ` Willy Tarreau
2015-07-24 18:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-07-24 18:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-07-24 19:05 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-24 19:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-24 20:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-07-24 20:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-24 21:07 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-24 21:08 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-30 15:41 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-07-30 21:22 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-30 21:58 ` Brian Gerst
2015-07-30 22:59 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-07-31 4:22 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-07-31 5:11 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-31 7:51 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-07-31 8:03 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-07-31 9:27 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-07-31 10:25 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-07-31 10:26 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-07-31 10:32 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-09-07 5:39 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2015-09-07 7:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-07 8:19 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2015-09-07 10:19 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-07 17:01 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2015-09-07 17:22 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-07 19:30 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2015-09-07 21:56 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-08 16:21 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2015-07-24 23:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-07-24 15:34 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-24 15:49 ` Willy Tarreau
2015-07-24 15:48 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-24 16:02 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-24 16:08 ` Willy Tarreau
2015-07-24 16:31 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-24 16:06 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-24 16:25 ` Willy Tarreau
2015-07-24 17:21 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-24 17:10 ` Willy Tarreau
2015-07-24 17:20 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-30 15:54 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-07-24 17:21 ` Willy Tarreau
2015-07-23 20:52 ` Willy Tarreau [this message]
2015-07-23 20:53 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-23 21:07 ` Willy Tarreau
2015-07-23 21:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-07-23 21:18 ` Willy Tarreau
2015-07-23 21:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-23 21:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-07-23 21:45 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-23 21:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-07-23 21:59 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-23 22:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-07-24 10:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-24 11:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-23 21:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-23 21:20 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-23 21:46 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-24 16:33 ` Raymond Jennings
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