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From: Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org>
To: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
Cc: Matt Fleming <matt@codeblueprint.co.uk>,
	Wim Van Sebroeck <wim@iguana.be>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-watchdog@vger.kernel.org,
	Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>,
	Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
	Jean Delvare <jdelvare@suse.com>,
	Wolfram Sang <wsa@the-dreams.de>,
	Matt Fleming <matt.fleming@intel.com>,
	Peter Tyser <ptyser@xes-inc.com>,
	Samuel Ortiz <sameo@linux.intel.com>,
	Aaron Sierra <asierra@xes-inc.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] iTCO_wdt: Expose watchdog properties using platform data
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 08:30:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150729073013.GE2284@x1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150728185143.GA5382@roeck-us.net>

On Tue, 28 Jul 2015, Guenter Roeck wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 06:32:16PM +0100, Lee Jones wrote:
> > On Tue, 28 Jul 2015, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> > 
> > > On 07/28/2015 08:28 AM, Lee Jones wrote:
> > > >On Tue, 28 Jul 2015, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>On 07/28/2015 08:00 AM, Lee Jones wrote:
> > > >>>On Tue, 28 Jul 2015, Matt Fleming wrote:
> > > >>>>On Tue, 28 Jul, at 12:37:21PM, Lee Jones wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>The driver shouldn't be called that either.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>You are the only one.  What makes iTCO 'special'?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>I don't know, I didn't write it. It looks like Wim did ~9 years ago, so
> > > >>>>it must have made sense to him at the time.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>
> > > >>Coding style wasn't as strict then as it is today. iTCO has just been kept
> > > >>for historic reasons.
> > > >
> > > >For sure, I get that, but it doesn't mean we can't do-the-right-thing
> > > >(tm) now does it?
> > > >
> > > >>Sure, we could have changed it to lowercase, but so far no one bothered.
> > > >>Plus, of course, there is always the element that some maintainers hate
> > > >>that kind of cleanup,
> > > >
> > > >Really?  Surely any kind of clean-up is good clean-up.  Especially as
> > > >Greg KH et. al, have been doing public presentations telling everyone
> > > >that there is always kernel work for anyone who has the time; spelling
> > > >corrections and all.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > Yes, really. Just try to submit cleanup patches to maintainers other than
> > > Greg and myself, and you'll see. It is a minefield.
> > 
> > Admittedly some of us have our quirks, but I'm happy to challenge
> > anyone that won't accept clean-up patches that make things better.
> > 
> There might possibly be a discussion at the kernel summit about that,
> in the context of encouraging (or discouraging) new kernel developers.
> If you are invited to the KS, it might make sense to attend that discussion.

I'd be happy to, but I don't have any first-hand experience of these
awkward (backward) Maintainers, who for some reason thing 'no change'
("don't touch it, it works"?) is better than 'improvement'. 

If/when you come across it, a link would be appreciated.

-- 
Lee Jones
Linaro STMicroelectronics Landing Team Lead
Linaro.org │ Open source software for ARM SoCs
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  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-29  7:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-27 13:38 [PATCH 0/5] iTCO_wdt: Add support for Intel Sunrisepoint Matt Fleming
2015-07-27 13:38 ` [PATCH 1/5] iTCO_wdt: Expose watchdog properties using platform data Matt Fleming
2015-07-27 13:49   ` Guenter Roeck
2015-07-27 14:19     ` Matt Fleming
2015-07-27 14:24       ` Guenter Roeck
2015-07-28  9:52         ` Matt Fleming
2015-07-27 15:33   ` Lee Jones
2015-07-27 15:45     ` Andy Shevchenko
2015-07-27 20:32     ` Matt Fleming
2015-07-27 21:32       ` Lee Jones
2015-07-28  9:16         ` Matt Fleming
2015-07-28  9:46   ` Lee Jones
2015-07-28 11:07     ` Matt Fleming
2015-07-28 11:37       ` Lee Jones
2015-07-28 12:43         ` Matt Fleming
2015-07-28 15:00           ` Lee Jones
2015-07-28 15:18             ` Guenter Roeck
2015-07-28 15:28               ` Lee Jones
2015-07-28 15:45                 ` Matt Fleming
2015-07-28 15:56                   ` Lee Jones
2015-07-28 17:08                 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-07-28 17:32                   ` Lee Jones
2015-07-28 18:51                     ` Guenter Roeck
2015-07-29  7:30                       ` Lee Jones [this message]
2015-07-29  9:04                     ` Jean Delvare
2015-07-29 10:07                       ` Lee Jones
2015-07-28 18:46         ` Aaron Sierra
2015-07-29  7:38           ` Lee Jones
2015-07-29 14:52             ` Aaron Sierra
2015-07-29 15:32               ` Lee Jones
2015-07-29 15:52                 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-07-30  8:51                   ` Lee Jones
2015-07-29 16:20                 ` Aaron Sierra
2015-07-29 16:38                   ` Guenter Roeck
2015-07-29 17:00                     ` Aaron Sierra
2015-07-28 16:50     ` Jean Delvare
2015-07-29  7:27       ` Lee Jones
2015-07-29  7:29   ` Jean Delvare
2015-07-29 11:09     ` Matt Fleming
2015-07-27 13:38 ` [PATCH 2/5] i2c: i801: Create iTCO device on newer Intel PCHs Matt Fleming
2015-07-27 14:08   ` Guenter Roeck
2015-07-28  9:34     ` Matt Fleming
2015-07-27 13:38 ` [PATCH 3/5] iTCO_wdt: Add support for TCO on Intel Sunrisepoint Matt Fleming
2015-07-27 14:22   ` Guenter Roeck
2015-07-28 10:13     ` Matt Fleming
2015-07-28 17:03   ` Jean Delvare
2015-07-29 10:45     ` Matt Fleming
2015-07-27 13:38 ` [PATCH 4/5] iTCO_wdt: fixup for the header Matt Fleming
2015-07-27 14:13   ` Guenter Roeck
2015-07-28  9:17     ` Matt Fleming
2015-07-27 13:38 ` [PATCH 5/5] i2c-i801: fixup regarding watchdog timer Matt Fleming
2015-07-27 14:14   ` Guenter Roeck
2015-07-28  9:17     ` Matt Fleming

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