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From: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com>
To: Andrea Scian <rnd4@dave-tech.it>
Cc: linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Brian Norris <computersforpeace@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Han Xu <b45815@freescale.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/2] mtd: nand: use nand_check_erased_ecc_chunk in default ECC read functions
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 12:32:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150731123221.34cf601e@bbrezillon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55BB48D9.6050508@dave-tech.it>

Hi Andrea,

Adding Han in Cc.

On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 12:07:21 +0200
Andrea Scian <rnd4@dave-tech.it> wrote:

> 
> Dear Boris,
> 
> 
> Il 30/07/2015 19:34, Boris Brezillon ha scritto:
> > The default NAND read functions are relying on an underlying controller
> > to correct bitflips, but some of those controller cannot properly fix
> > bitflips in erased pages.
> > In case of ECC failures, check if the page of subpage is empty before
> > reporting an ECC failure.
> 
> I'm still wondering if chip->ecc.strength is the right threshold.
> 
> Did you see my comments here [1]? WDYT?

Yes I've read it, and decided to go for ecc->strength as a first
step (I'm more interested in discussing the approach than the threshold
value right now ;-)).

Anyway, as you pointed out in the thread, writing data on an erased
page already containing some bitflips might generate even more
bitflips, so using a different threshold for the erased page check
makes sense. This threshold should definitely be correlated to the ECC
strength, but how, that's the question.

How about taking a rather conservative value like 10% of the specified
ECC strength, and see how it goes.

> 
> Maybe we can have this discussion in a separate thread, if you want ;-)

No, I think we should keep discussing it in this thread.

Thanks,

Boris


-- 
Boris Brezillon, Free Electrons
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
http://free-electrons.com

  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-31 10:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-30 17:34 [RFC PATCH 0/2] mtd: nand: properly handle bitflips in erased pages Boris Brezillon
2015-07-30 17:34 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] mtd: nand: add nand_check_erased helper functions Boris Brezillon
2015-07-31  7:10   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-31 10:06     ` Andrea Scian
2015-07-31 10:21       ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-31 13:29         ` Andrea Scian
2015-07-31 13:58           ` Boris Brezillon
2015-08-04 15:42     ` Andrea Scian
2015-08-04 16:27       ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-30 17:34 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] mtd: nand: use nand_check_erased_ecc_chunk in default ECC read functions Boris Brezillon
2015-07-31 10:07   ` Andrea Scian
2015-07-31 10:32     ` Boris Brezillon [this message]
2015-07-31 13:40       ` Andrea Scian
2015-07-31 14:10         ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-31 16:19           ` Andrea Scian
2015-07-31 16:27             ` Boris Brezillon
2015-08-03 11:16               ` Andrea Scian
2015-08-03 12:42                 ` Boris Brezillon
2015-08-03 13:39                   ` Andrea Scian
2015-08-03 19:32                     ` Richard Weinberger
2015-08-04  7:02                       ` Andrea Scian
2015-08-04  7:21                         ` Richard Weinberger
2015-08-06  4:28                           ` Andrea Scian
2015-08-06  9:19                           ` Boris Brezillon
2015-08-06  9:42                             ` Richard Weinberger
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