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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Cc: gleb@kernel.org, pbonzini@redhat.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 2/3] kvm: don't register wildcard MMIO EVENTFD on two buses
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 09:54:44 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150901065444.GA31420@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55E52DE8.4000308@redhat.com>

On Tue, Sep 01, 2015 at 12:47:36PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> 
> 
> On 09/01/2015 12:31 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 01, 2015 at 11:33:43AM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> >>
> >> On 08/31/2015 07:33 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 04:03:59PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 08/31/2015 03:29 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thinking more about this, invoking the 0-length write after
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the != 0 length one would be better: it would mean we only
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> handle the userspace MMIO like this.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Using current unittest. This patch is about 2.9% slower than before, and
> >>>>>>>>>>> invoking 0-length write after is still 1.1% slower (mmio-datamatch-eventfd).
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> /patch/result/-+%/
> >>>>>>>>>>> /base/2957/0/
> >>>>>>>>>>> /V3/3043/+2.9%/
> >>>>>>>>>>> /V3+invoking != 0 length first/2990/+1.1%/
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> So looks like the best method is not searching KVM_FAST_MMIO_BUS during
> >>>>>>>>>>> KVM_MMIO_BUS. Instead, let userspace to register both datamatch and
> >>>>>>>>>>> wildcard in this case. Does this sound good to you?
> >>>>>>> No - we can't change userspace.
> >>>>> Actually, the change was as simple as following. So I don't get the
> >>>>> reason why.
> >>> Because it's too late - we committed to a specific userspace ABI
> >>> when this was merged in kernel, we must maintain it.
> >> Ok ( Though I don't think it has real users for this now because it was
> >> actually broken).
> > It actually worked most of the time - you only trigger a use after free
> > on deregister.
> >
> 
> It doesn't work for amd and intel machine without ept.

I thought it does :(

> >>> Even if I thought yours is a good API (and I don't BTW - it's exposing
> >>> internal implementation details) it's too late to change it.
> >> I believe we should document the special treatment in kernel of zero
> >> length mmio eventfd in api.txt? If yes, is this an exposing? If not, how
> >> can userspace know the advantages of this and use it? For better API,
> >> probably we need another new flag just for fast mmio and obsolete
> >> current one by failing the assigning for zero length mmio eventfd.
> > I sent a patch to update api.txt already as part of
> > kvm: add KVM_CAP_IOEVENTFD_PF capability.
> > I should probably split it out.
> >
> > Sorry, I don't think the api change you propose makes sense - just fix the
> > crash in the existing one.
> >
> 
> Ok, so I believe the fix should go:
> 
> - having two ioeventfds when we want to assign zero length mmio eventfd

You mean the in-kernel data structures?

> - change the kvm_io_bus_sort_cmp() and can handle zero length correctly

This one's for amd/non ept, right? I'd rather we implemented the
fast mmio optimization for these.

> What's your thought?

  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-01  6:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-25  9:05 [PATCH V3 1/3] kvm: use kmalloc() instead of kzalloc() during iodev register/unregister Jason Wang
2015-08-25  9:05 ` [PATCH V3 2/3] kvm: don't register wildcard MMIO EVENTFD on two buses Jason Wang
2015-08-25 10:24   ` Cornelia Huck
2015-08-25 11:37   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-08-25 11:51   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-08-26  5:10     ` Jason Wang
2015-08-31  3:12       ` Jason Wang
2015-08-31  7:29         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-08-31  8:03           ` Jason Wang
2015-08-31 11:33             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-09-01  3:33               ` Jason Wang
2015-09-01  4:31                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-09-01  4:47                   ` Jason Wang
2015-09-01  6:54                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2015-09-01  8:22                       ` Jason Wang
2015-09-01  8:32                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-08-25  9:05 ` [PATCH V3 3/3] kvm: add tracepoint for fast mmio Jason Wang
2015-08-25 11:36   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-09-07 10:33 ` [PATCH V3 1/3] kvm: use kmalloc() instead of kzalloc() during iodev register/unregister Paolo Bonzini

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