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From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
	Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] rcu: Fix up timeouts for forcing the quiescent state
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2015 17:21:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150907152102.GC9577@pathway.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150904234946.GE4029@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Fri 2015-09-04 16:49:46, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 04, 2015 at 02:11:30PM +0200, Petr Mladek wrote:
> > The deadline to force the quiescent state (jiffies_force_qs) is currently
> > updated only when the previous timeout passed. But the timeout used for
> > wait_event() is always the entire original timeout. This is strange.
> 
> They tell me that kthreads aren't supposed to every catch signals,
> hence the WARN_ON() in the early-exit case stray-signal case.

Yup, I have investigated this recently. All signals are really blocked
for kthreads by default. There are few threads that use signals but
they explicitly enable it by allow_signal().


> In the case where we were awakened with an explicit force-quiescent-state
> request, we do the scan, and then wait the full time for the next scan.
> So the point of the delay is to space out the scans, not to fit a
> pre-determined schedule.
> 
> The reason we get awakened with an explicit force-quiescent-state
> request is that a given CPU just got inundated with RCU callbacks
> or that rcutorture wants to hammer this code path.
> 
> So I am not seeing this as anything in need of fixing.
> 
> Am I missing something subtle here?

There is the commit 88d6df612cc3c99f5 ("rcu: Prevent spurious-wakeup
DoS attack on rcu_gp_kthread()"). It suggests that the spurious
wakeups are possible.

I would consider this patch as a fix/clean up of this Dos attack fix.
Huh, I forgot to mention it in the commit message.

To be honest, I personally do not know how to trigger the spurious
wakeup in the current state of the code. I am trying to convert
the kthread into the kthread worker API and there I got the spurious
wakeups but this is another story.

Thanks a lot for reviewing.

Best Regards,
Petr

  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-07 15:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-04 12:11 [PATCH 0/2] rcu: two small fixes for RCU kthreads Petr Mladek
2015-09-04 12:11 ` [PATCH 1/2] rcu: Show the real fqs_state Petr Mladek
2015-09-04 23:24   ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-09-07 14:58     ` Petr Mladek
2015-09-08 19:59       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-09-09 12:39         ` Petr Mladek
2015-09-09 19:12           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-09-04 12:11 ` [PATCH 2/2] rcu: Fix up timeouts for forcing the quiescent state Petr Mladek
2015-09-04 23:49   ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-09-07 15:21     ` Petr Mladek [this message]
2015-09-08 20:02       ` Paul E. McKenney

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