From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
Subject: Re: wake_up_process implied memory barrier clarification
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2015 19:06:52 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150907170652.GA32459@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150902011027.GB8007@fixme-laptop.cn.ibm.com>
Sorry for delay,
On 09/02, Boqun Feng wrote:
>
> On Tue, Sep 01, 2015 at 06:39:23PM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > On 09/01, Boqun Feng wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Sep 01, 2015 at 11:59:23AM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > > >
> > > > And just in case, wake_up() differs in a sense that it doesn't even need
> > > > that STORE-LOAD barrier in try_to_wake_up(), we can rely on
> > > > wait_queue_head_t->lock. Assuming that wake_up() pairs with the "normal"
> > > > wait_event()-like code.
> >
> > Looks like, you have missed this part of my previous email. See below.
>
> I guess I need to think through this, though I haven't found any problem
> in wake_up() if we remove the STORE-LOAD barrier in try_to_wake_up().
> And I know that in wake_up(), try_to_wake_up() will be called with
> holding wait_queue_head_t->lock, however, only part of wait_event()
> holds the same lock, I can't figure out why the barrier is not needed
> because of the lock..
This is very simple. __wait_event() does
for (;;) {
prepare_to_wait_event(WQ, ...); // takes WQ->lock
if (CONDITION)
break;
schedule();
}
and we have
CONDITION = 1;
wake_up(WQ); // takes WQ->lock
on another side.
Suppose that __wait_event() wins and takes WQ->lock first. It can block
then. In this case wake_up() must see the result of set_current_state()
and list_add() when it takes the same lock, otherwise spin_lock() would
be simply buggy. So it will wake the waiter up.
At the same time, if __wait_event() takes this lock after wake_up(), it
can not miss CONDITION = 1. It must see it after it takes the lock, and
of course after it drops the lock too.
So I am not sure I understand your concerns in this case...
Oleg.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-09-07 17:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-08-27 12:27 wake_up_process implied memory barrier clarification Michal Hocko
2015-08-27 12:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-27 13:14 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-27 18:26 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-08-28 14:51 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-28 16:06 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-08-29 9:25 ` Boqun Feng
2015-08-29 14:27 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-08-31 0:37 ` Boqun Feng
2015-08-31 18:33 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-08-31 20:37 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-09-01 3:40 ` Boqun Feng
2015-09-01 4:03 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-09-01 9:59 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-09-01 14:50 ` Boqun Feng
2015-09-01 16:39 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-09-02 1:10 ` Boqun Feng
2015-09-07 17:06 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2015-09-08 0:22 ` Boqun Feng
2015-09-01 9:41 ` Oleg Nesterov
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