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From: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
To: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>
Cc: "Raj, Ashok" <ashok.raj@intel.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-edac@vger.kernel.org" <linux-edac@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Patch V1 1/3] x86, mce: MCE log size not enough for high core parts
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2015 21:22:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150924192224.GL3774@pd.tnic> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3908561D78D1C84285E8C5FCA982C28F32B014D3@ORSMSX114.amr.corp.intel.com>

On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 07:00:46PM +0000, Luck, Tony wrote:
> > If we get new ones logged in the meantime and userspace hasn't managed
> > to consume and delete the present ones yet, we overwrite the oldest ones
> > and set MCE_OVERFLOW like mce_log does now for mcelog. And that's no
> > difference in functionality than what we have now.
> 
> Ummmm. No.
> 
>                 for (;;) {
> 
>                         /*
>                          * When the buffer fills up discard new entries.
>                          * Assume that the earlier errors are the more
>                          * interesting ones:
>                          */
>                         if (entry >= MCE_LOG_LEN) {
>                                 set_bit(MCE_OVERFLOW,
>                                         (unsigned long *)&mcelog.flags);
>                                 return;
>                         }

Ah, we return. But we shouldn't return - we should overwrite. I believe
we've talked about the policy of overwriting old errors with new ones.

TBH, I don't think there's a 100%-correct policy to act according to
when our error logging buffers are full:

- we can overwrite old errors with new but then this way we might lose
the one important error record with which it all started.

- if we don't overwrite, we might fill up with "unimportant" correctable
error records and miss other, more important ones which happen now

- ...

We could try to implement some cheap heuristics which decide what and
when to overwrite but I'm sceptical it'll be always correct...

-- 
Regards/Gruss,
    Boris.

ECO tip #101: Trim your mails when you reply.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-24 19:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-24  5:48 [Patch V1 1/3] x86, mce: MCE log size not enough for high core parts Ashok Raj
2015-09-24  5:48 ` [Patch V1 2/3] x86, mce: Refactor parts of mce_log() to reuse when logging from offline CPUs Ashok Raj
2015-09-24  5:48 ` [Patch V1 3/3] x86, mce: Account for offline CPUs during MCE rendezvous Ashok Raj
2015-09-24 15:47 ` [Patch V1 1/3] x86, mce: MCE log size not enough for high core parts Borislav Petkov
2015-09-24 18:44   ` Luck, Tony
2015-09-24 18:52     ` Borislav Petkov
2015-09-24 19:00       ` Luck, Tony
2015-09-24 19:22         ` Borislav Petkov [this message]
2015-09-24 20:22           ` Raj, Ashok
2015-09-24 21:07             ` Borislav Petkov
2015-09-24 21:25               ` Raj, Ashok
2015-09-25  8:29                 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-09-25 16:29                   ` Raj, Ashok

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