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From: Darren Hart <dvhart@infradead.org>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
Cc: Wang Long <long.wanglong@huawei.com>,
	shuahkh@osg.samsung.com, Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	keescook@chromium.org, davem@davemloft.net, luto@amacapital.net,
	wad@chromium.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	gorcunov@openvz.org, cov@codeaurora.org,
	bobby prani <bobby.prani@gmail.com>,
	tyler baker <tyler.baker@linaro.org>,
	Tim Bird <tim.bird@sonymobile.com>,
	josh@joshtriplett.org, Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	andrej skvortzov <andrej.skvortzov@gmail.com>,
	sjayaram@akamai.com, treding@nvidia.com,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	naresh kamboju <naresh.kamboju@linaro.org>,
	alexey kodanev <alexey.kodanev@oracle.com>,
	linux-api <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, wanglong@laoqinren.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kselftest: replace $(RM) with rm -f command
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 21:38:08 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151003043808.GA90454@vmdeb7> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1201012824.5792.1443410213729.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com>

On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 03:16:53AM +0000, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> ----- On Sep 27, 2015, at 10:10 PM, Wang Long long.wanglong@huawei.com wrote:
> 
> > Some test's Makefile using "$(RM)" while the other's
> > using "rm -f". It is better to use one of them in all
> > tests.
> 
> I agree that this disparity appears to be unwanted. We
> should settle on one or the other.
> 
> > 
> > "rm -f" is better, because it is less magic, and everyone
> > konws what is does.
> 
> "$(RM)" is clearly defined as a Makefile implicit variable
> which defaults to "rm -f".
> Ref. https://www.gnu.org/software/make/manual/html_node/Implicit-Variables.html
> 
> Leaving it as a variable is more flexible because then the
> default behavior can be overridden if need be, which is
> not the case of a hardcoded "rm -f".
> 
> Following your line of argumentation, we should then
> invoke "gcc" directly in every Makefile because it is
> less magic than "$(CC)". This makes no sense.

I don't think they can be compared so simply. Specifying a compiler is a common
use case. Customizing the rm command is not, in my experience anyway, and like
Michael, I would definately have to look up what RM means.

That said, I care more about consistency than which is used. Both are valid, but
$(RM), while more flexible, will cost more people time to look up what it does
as it isn't commonly used than any benefit we're likely to see from its use.

Meh. :-)

-- 
Darren Hart
Intel Open Source Technology Center

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-10-03  4:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-23  9:40 [PATCH] kselftest: using built-in rule when delete file Wang Long
2015-09-24  1:46 ` Michael Ellerman
2015-09-24  2:05   ` long.wanglong
2015-09-24  2:07     ` Michael Ellerman
2015-09-25 15:44       ` Darren Hart
2015-09-28  2:03         ` long.wanglong
2015-09-28  2:10         ` [PATCH] kselftest: replace $(RM) with rm -f command Wang Long
2015-09-28  3:16           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2015-09-28  5:11             ` Cam Hutchison
2015-09-29  9:57             ` Michael Ellerman
2015-09-29 11:21               ` [PATCH] kselftest: replace rm -f command with $(RM) Wang Long
2015-09-29 17:45               ` [PATCH] kselftest: replace $(RM) with rm -f command Kees Cook
2015-10-03  4:38             ` Darren Hart [this message]
2015-10-03 14:11               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2015-10-03 17:55                 ` Josh Triplett
2015-10-03 18:05                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2015-09-28  7:26           ` Yuan Sun

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